THIS IS DET. SGT. MIKE ALLEN OF THE WEST MEMPHIS POLICE DEPARTMENT. TODAY'S DATE IS JUNE 10, 1993. PRESENTLY IN THE DYESS ARKANSAS CITY HALL, WITH A G.W. CHARLES STONE, OWNER OF THE DYESS THEATER. MR. STONE, I WAS UP HERE YESTERDAY AND WE HAD, I HAD INTERVIEWED YOU IN REFERENCE TO AN ALIBI THAT UH, THE STORY THAT WAS GIVEN TO US IN REFERENCE TO THIS JESSIE MISSKELLEY CHARGED IN THIS TRIPLE HOMICIDE THAT WE ARE WORKING IN WEST MEMPHIS. UH, TODAY, I RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM J.D. HALL THAT YOU HAD CALLED ABOUT SOME NEW INFORMATION, AS FAR AS AN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS PAID TO YOU ON A PARTICULAR DATE AND, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YESTERDAY'S STATEMENT UH, CAN YOU CLEAR THIS MATTER UP FROM YESTERDAY'S STATEMENT?
STONE - OKAY, THE MONEY I WAS REFERRING TO, I SOLD THE WRESTLING RING OUT OF THE THEATER BUILDING, AND LOOKING THROUGH MY BANK STATEMENTS, I HAD MADE A DEPOSIT OF UH, ON THE 6TH. THAT AMOUNT WAS FOR $222.00. THE SALE WAS FOR $300.00 AS PAYMENT ON THE WRESTLING RING. LOOKING THROUGH MY STATEMENT, I SEEN THAT I HAD MADE A DEPOSIT ON THE 6TH, THAT WOULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT I GOT THE MONEY THE DAY BEFORE. BUT, THIS MONEY, I WENT THEN UH, THIS MORNING TO MY, UH, NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BANK STATEMENT. THAT'S SENT OUT EVERY MONTH. BUT, THEN I WENT THIS MORNING, I WENT TO MY CHECK STUBS AND UH, I FOUND WHERE I HAD ENTERED ON THE BACK OF THE CHECK PREVIOUS TO THAT, UH, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN UH, FOR, I HAD ENTERED IN MY CHECKBOOK ON THE BACK OF THE PAGE, JUST IN FRONT OF THAT, THAT THIS WAS FOR RENT RECIEVED IN MY TRAILER PARK. IT WAS A PARTIAL PAYMENT, AND UH, ALSO A FULL PAYMENT FOR ONE MONTHS RENT, FROM TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
ALLEN - OKAY, LET ME DIRECT YOU TO THIS STUB BOOK FROM YOUR DEPOSIT IN CHECKS, UH IT SAYS STUB NUMBER 685 AND IT SHOWS UH, THE DATE 05/06/93 AND HERE, WHERE WE ARE REFERRING TO THIS 222.00 HERE, IS THAT CORRECT?
STONE - THAT'S DEPOSIT, RIGHT
ALLEN - OKAY, AND ON THIS WITH THE PAGE OPEN, THE BACK OF THIS SHOWS DEPOSIT CASH/RENT J., IS THAT VAUGHN?
STONE - J. VAUGHN
ALLEN - AND A.D. SINGLETON
STONE - DON SINGLETON, THEY BOTH, JOHN VAUGHN DOESN'T LIVE IN MY TRAILER PARK, HE HAS MOVED OUT. BUT DON STILL LIVES HERE. NOW, ON THIS PARTICULAR CHECK, UH AS YOU WILL NOTICE THROUGH THE BOOK THAT I MADE ENTRIES ALONG AS I GET MY RENT IN. BUT, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT YESTERDAY, WAS THE DEPOSIT SLIPS FROM THE BANK. AND, THROUGH THE BOOK HERE, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT I HAVE MADE SEVERAL ENTRIES AT DIFFERENT TIMES. WHAT THE MONEY WAS DEPOSITED, THIS WAS A CASH DEPOSIT, BUT IT WAS FOR THE RENT.
ALLEN - AND, I'VE NOTICED UH, ON, LIKE SAY FOR INSTANCE UH, YOU DO MAKE NOTES ON THESE SIDE PAGES AS FOR AS LIKE THIS UH
STONE - RIGHT
ALLEN - YOU, 686, YOU WROTE OVER HERE, SERVICE CHARGE FOR $5.00 AND AT THE BACK OF THESE PAGES ARE REFERRING TO THE NEXT PAGES, NOTES
STONE - RIGHT, THAT'S CORRECT
ALLEN - OKAY
STONE - THERE'S A DEPOSIT ALSO THERE. BUT, THESE DEPOSITS WERE FOR CHECK, WERE DEPOSITED AS CHECKS. UH, WHAT I WAS PAID IN WAS CASH. FOR THIS
ALLEN - FOR THE WRESTLING FOR RENT
STONE - NO, YES, I WAS PAID CASH FOR THE RENT, BUT ALSO I WAS PAID CASH FOR THE THREE ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLS FOR HALF PAYMENT ON THE RENT.
ALLEN - OKAY, AND YOU LOOKED THROUGH, YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH YOUR DEPOSITS, UH ARE THERE ANY DEPOSITS THAT COINCIDE WITH THE THREE ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MADE TO YOU FOR THAT RING AT ANY GIVEN TIME PERIOD, SAY WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO, OR OF THIS MAY 6TH DATE?
STONE - OKAY, UH, I'M LOOKING THROUGH HERE NOW, UH, THERE IS A DEPOSIT MADE, LET ME CHECK. THERE IS A DEPOSIT, A CASH DEPOSIT THE 28TH DAY OF APRIL, 1993. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A WEEK PRIOR, AND, TO THIS, AND THIS HAS TO BE
ALLEN - THE 28TH. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A WEDNESDAY NIGHT GOING BY THIS CALENDAR HERE.
STONE - YES
ALLEN - A WEDNESDAY NIGHT, IS THAT CORRECT?
STONE - WELL, IF THE 28TH, I DEPOSIT THE MONEY, I COULDN'T HAVE DEPOSITED IT ON THE NIGHT THAT IT WAS GAVE TO ME, I DEPOSITED, APPARRENTLY THE NEXT DAY. UH, ITS FOR THE AMOUNT OF $400.00. AND UH, IT IS FOR CURRENCY, IT IS NOT A CHECK, AND THAT WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN IN MY MIND, AND MY KNOWLEDGE THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE BEEN FOR THE PURCHASING OF THE RING. UH, WHERE THE $400.00 CAME FROM IS PROBABLY UH, ANOTHER $100.00 THAT I PICKED UP ON SOME RENT AHEAD OF THAT. UH, SOME PEOPLE PAY THEIR RENT A DAY OR TWO AHEAD OF TIME, SOME OF THEM PAY IT A WEEK, SOME OF THEM DON'T EVER PAY IT, SO, YOU KNOW
ALLEN - BUT. WHAT WERE YOU BASING YESTERDAY IN REGUARDS TO THIS COPY OF THIS CONTRACT THAT I HAVE HERE, THAT THE, JESSIE MISSKELLEY'S NAME SHOWS UP THE 4TH PERSON ON THIS LIST. THIS FRED REVAIL, BEING THIS FRED JAMES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT HE USES, I GUESS FRED JAMES MAYBE HIS WRESTLING NAME. I VERIFIED THAT HIS REAL NAME IS FRED REVAIL, THAT HE SIGNED HERE ON THIS CONTRACT, UH, BUT THIS FOURTH NAME DOWN HERE, THIS JESSIE MISSKELLEY, UH, IN REGUARDS TO YESTERDAY'S STATEMENT, UH, FROM WHAT YOU'VE GATHERED YOU WERE BASING THE FACT THAT THE DAY THE $300.00 WAS PAID TO YOU FOR HALF OF THE PURCHASE OF THE RING, THAT THAT WAS THE DAY THAT THIS FORM HERE WAS FILLED OUT, IS THAT CORRECT?
STONE - RIGHT, BECAUSE THINKING BACK, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN UH, YOU KNOW. THE REASON THAT I KNOW THIS ALSO, BESIDES MY NOTES, DON SINGLETON LIVES OVER THERE IN ONE OF MY TRAILERS, AND HE'S ON DISABILITY AND HE GET A GOVERNMENT CHECK. AND DON HAS ALWAYS PAID HIS UH, RENT, JUST A LITTLE LATE, BECAUSE HE GETS HIS CHECK ON THE 3RD, AND THEN HE DON'T PAY IT UNTIL LIKE THE 4TH OR 5TH, 6TH SOMEWHERE ALONG IN THERE. AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AROUND THE THE 5TH TO THE 6TH. THAT, WHEN I SEEN IT, WAS A CASH DEPOSIT, AND MY STATEMENT, I SAID THAT I HAD HELD OUT SOME MONEY, UH AND OCCASIONALLY I DO THAT. I DON'T DEPOSIT ALL OF THE MONEY. UH, BUT EVEN ON THAT, I DIDN'T HOLD OUT ON THAT DEPOSIT, I ONLY HELD OUT $3.00, BECAUSE THE RENT THAT I WAS PAID WAS $125.00 AND $100.00, AND THE DEPOSIT WAS MADE WAS $222.00, AND THINKING BACK, DON PAID ME IN MY STORE OVER THERE WHICH, I HAVE LEASED OUT AND I WENT OVER TO THE COUNTER AND BOUGHT SOME THINGS WITH THE CASH THAT HE HAD, YOU KNOW, SPENT $3.00 OF IT IN THE STORE, AND THAT'S HOW COME IT COME UP TO UH, $222.00.
ALLEN - NOW, TRYING TO REMEMBER BACK TO THAT WEDNESDAY, MAY 5TH, IN REGUARDS TO TRYING TO REMEMBER UH, WOULD YOU HAVE TAKEN THE RENT THAT NIGHT FROM DON SINGLETON OR WOULD IT HAVE BEEN THE DAY BEFORE OR THE DATE THAT YOU HAVE ON THE THE, WOULD YOU HAVE DEPOSITED IT ON THE SAME DATE THAT YOU MAY HAVE GOTTEN IT FROM DON SINGLETON OR DO YOU REMEMBER THAT TIME PERIOD?
STONE - I WOULD HAVE DEPOSITED IT, EITHER THAT DAY OR THE NEXT DAY, IF HE HAD PAID ME EARLY IN THE MORNING, I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY SINCE I'M RETIRED, I PROBABLY WENT TO THE BANK THAT DAY. BUT, I DON'T KNOW WHERE, I KNOW THAT THE DEPOSIT WAS MADE ON THE 6TH, AND UH, I CAN'T SAY, BUT I DEFINITELY KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT THE MONEY THAT WAS PAID FOR ME FOR THE WRESTLING RING. THIS IS NOT IT.
ALLEN - OKAY
STONE - UH, I'M THINKING AND IN MY OWN MIND, THAT I WAS PAID A WEEK BEFORE THAT, FOR THE, THE $300.00 BECAUSE THERE IS A CASH DEPOSIT AND SINCE I'M ON UH, GOVERNMENT UH, RETIREMENT, AND SOCIAL SECURITY, MY, ALL MY FEDERAL MONEY GOES DIRECT DEPOSIT TO THE BANK, IT ALWAYS HAS. AND UH, SO AS FOR AS, UH THIS MONEY BEING PAID TO ME, I SHOW NO CASH. I ALWAYS PAY MY MONEY WITHIN A VERY SHORT TIME. AND, THERE IS NO UH DEPOSIT ON UH, NO BIG DEPOSIT THAT WOULD MATCH $300.00. HOWEVER, A WEEK BEFORE THIS THERE IS A $400.00 CASH DEPOSIT, AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE BEEN FOR WRESTLING RING.
ALLEN - WHEN JAMES CAME UP HERE, SUNDAY, AND OR. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, HIS REAL NAME BEING FRED REVAIL, BUT THIS FRED JAMES, YOU GAVE ME HIS TELEPHONE NUMBER AND HAD HIS NAME WRITTEN DOWN, HE'S THE ONE THAT YOU ACTUALLY DID THE TRANSACTION WITH, IS THAT CORRECT?
STONE - OKAY, UH, I DID THE TRANSACTION WITH HIM BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER FELLOW, ANOTHER MAN UH, HE IS ON THAT LIST SOMEWHERE, BECAUSE HE SIGNED THE LIST. THAT UH GAVE ME THE MONEY. HE EITHER GAVE IT TO ME DIRECTLY. I THINK HE GAVE IT TO ME DIRECTLY OR HE HANDED IT TO THIS JAMES, AND HE GAVE IT TO ME, BUT I THINK HE GAVE IT TO ME DIRECTLY I THINK HE SAID, JUST GO AHEAD AND PAY CHARLIE. AND UH, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS JAMES WAS TRAINING THIS GUY, UH TO BE A WRESTLER, AND HE WAS PAYING HIM AND THEN HE WAS CONSEQUENTLY PAYING ME, IS THE WAY, AND HE'S MENTIONED THAT TO ME TWO OR THREE TIMES, WELL WHEN HE PAYS ME, I'LL PAY YOU FOR THE WRESTLING RING, YOU KNOW.
ALLEN - US, AS FAR AS, SAY DURING THE WEEK AFTER, SAY, IF IT WAS THE APRIL 28TH DEPOSIT, OF THE $300.00 UH DO YOU RECALL ANYTHING ABOUT THE NEXT WEEK OR, OF SOME GUYS BEING IN THE THEATER THE NEXT WEEK, LIKE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK ANYTIME?
STONE - YEAH, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT THEY CAME AS MUCH AS THREE TIMES A WEEK AND UH, ONE PARTICULAR TIME THAT THEY CAME AND I WAS GONE, UH THE WAY I KNOW THAT, THE NEXT MORNING, UH I CAN'T SAY IF THAT WAS THROUGH THE WEEK THOUGH, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WAS TIMES THAT THEY CAME THAT I DIDN'T GO IN THERE. BUT UH, I WOULD BE AWARE OF THEM BEING IN THERE, YOU KNOW.
ALLEN - DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE TIME PERIOD THAT THEY WOULD SHOW UP, UH WOULD IT BE STILL DAYLIGHT, DARK UH
STONE - WELL, SOMETIME THEY CAME IT WAS STILL DAYLIGHT, AROUND 7 O'CLOCK, SOMETIMES IT WOULD BE UH, IT WILL BE DARK, YOU KNOW. IT WOULD BE UH, IT WOULD BE DUST DARK. I KNOW OF THEM BEING THERE AT LEAST AT 7 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, UH BEFORE MAXIE CLOSES OVER THERE, UH HE HAD SEEN THEM , MAXIE IS THE MAN AT THE SERVICE STATION AND IT'S NEXT DOOR TO HIM. IT WAS NIGHT THAT THEY WERE IN THERE AND UH, MY GRANDSON HAD MY CAR AND MAXIE SAW THEM ALL GO IN THERE, AND UH BUT, YOU KNOW, HE LOOKED OVER TO THE HOUSE AND HE FIGURED I WASN'T AT HOME, SO HE DIDN;T BOTHER TO CALL ME, BECAUSE I ALWAYS, WHEN I'M GONE MY CAR IS GONE, BU TMY GRANDSON HAD MY CAR THAT NIGHT AND UH, HE LOOKED OVER THERE AND WONDERED WHY ALL OF THOSE PEOPE WAS GOING IN THERE. THIS THING HAD GOTTEN OUT OF HAND, IT WASN'T SUPPOSE TO BE BUT OR THREE PEOPLE IN THERE. AND THAT'S THE REASON I HAD TO GO OVER THERE AND, A COUPLE OF TIMES AND BRING THIS TO HIS ATTENTION. LOOK OUR AGREEMENT WAS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE IN MY THEATER, BECAUSE OF THE SMOKING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I SAID THAT I COULDN'T MONITOR IT ALL THE TIME.
ALLEN - WHEN JAMES CAME UP HERE, THE GUY THAT YOU KNOW BY JAMES, THAT'S ACTUALLY FRED REVAIL. WHEN HE CAME UP HERE THIS PAST SUNDAY, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN, TODAY IS THE 10TH, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE, HE CAME UP HERE ON THE 6TH IS THAT CORRECT, JUNE THE 6TH?
STONE - WHATEVER LAST SUNDAY, THE PAST SUNDAY WAS
ALLEN - JUNE THE 6TH, UH WHEN HE COME UP HERE, ABOUT HIS TALKING TO YOU, UH IN REFERENCE TO, DID HE COME UP HERE TO PRACTICE THAT NIGHT OR JUST TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE INCIDENT?
STONE - HE CAME UP HERE TO PRACTICE, BECAUSE SEE I HAD GAVE HIM A KEY, UH TO THE BUILDING, OKAY BECAUSE IT WAS UNDERSTANDING THAT THE KEY WOULD BE LEFT AT A CERTAIN PLACE, OF THE THEATER BUILDING, BECAUSE I ONLY HAD ONE KEY, AND I DID THIS MYSELF , HE DIDN'T ASK ME TO BECAUSE I WAS AFRAID THAT THEY WOULD DRIVE ALL THE WAY FROM WEST MEMPHIS AND I NOT BE THERE AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE BUILDING AND MY AGREEMENT WAS THAT THEY COULD UH, PRACTICE WRESTLING IN THERE, AS LONG AS IT WAS KEPT UNDER CONTROL. SO, UH TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, HE CAME TO WRESTLE THAT NIGHT AND I WANTED TO TALK TO HIM, ONE OF MY GRANDCHILDREN CAME AND TOLD ME, SAID THE WRESTLERS ARE OVER THERE. AND UH, I WAS BACK IN MY ROOM WATCHING TELEVISION, AND I SAID OKAY, I'LL GO OVER THERE IN A LITTLE BIT, AND UH, A FEW MINUTES I WENT OVER THERE, AND I WENT IN THE BUILDING AND UH, HE WAS THERE. THERE WAS THREE PEOPLE THERE THAT NIGHT. UH, THE OTHER TWO PEOPLE I DIDN'T KNOW. UH, IT WAS A HEAVY SET GUY I REMEMBER HE WAS CRIPPLE, AND WE SAT THERE AND TALKED. THEY HAD ALREADY DID THEIR PRACTICING. THE HEAVY SET GUY, HE WASN'T WRESTLING, HE WAS CRIPPLE AND ALL IN HIS LEG, AND WE JUST SAT THERE AND TALKED A FEW MINUTES. YOU KNOW, ABOUT IT. THIS IS WHEN HE SHOWED ME THE PICTURE. YOU KNOW I WAS SURPRISED. YOU KNOW. BUT HE SHOWED ME THE PICTURE OF THE BOY, FIRST HE TOLD ME, I GOT SOMETHING TO SHOW YOU. HE GIES OUT TO HIS TRUCK AND HE BRINGS A WHOLE BUNCH OF PICTURES. HE THUMBS THROUGH THEM AND HE PULLS THIS OUT AND SAYS, DO YOU RECOGNIZE THIS GUY? AND, I SAID, WELL, I'VE SEEN HIM SOMEWHERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK, IS A WRESTLER THAT I SHOULD KNOW OR SOMETHING, HE SAID NO, THAT'S MISSKELLEY. THAT DIDN'T RING A BELL, AND UH, I SAID, MISSKELLEY, AND STILL THINKING THAT IT WAS POSSIBLY A WRESTLER THAT I HAD KNOWN IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, AND HE SAID NO, THAT'S THE BOY THAT'S ACCUSED OF THOSE UH, YOU KNOW CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, THAT INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED DOWN THERE. AND I SAID WHAT, AND HE SAID, YEAH, THEY ARE ACCUSING HIM OF THAT. AND UH, SO I LOOKED CLOSELY AT THE PICTURE, AND I SAID HE SAID THAT HE COULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT, SAID, HE WAS UP HERE WITH US THAT NIGHT. AND I SAID, UP HERE AND HE SAID YEAH, AND AND THE RING YOU KNOW AND THE PICTURE AND EVERYTHING, IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN IN MY THEATER. AND I SAID, WHAT WAS HE DOING HERE, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, SAID, HE HAD JUST COME UP HERE AND SAID, I DON'T SEE HOW IN THE WORLD HE COULD HAVE DONE THAT. SAID UH, SO I ASKED HIM, WAS CONCERNED. WELL, I SAID, DID HE ACT STRANGE TO YOU, NO JUST COME UP HERE AND WE JUST PLAYED AND KNOW AND UH HE DIDN'T SEEM UPTIGHT, AND UH, I SAID UH, NOTHING AT ALL, YOU KNOW. HE SAID WE CAME BY THE TRAILER PARK AND PICKED HIM UP, SAID WE WERE UP HERE ABOUT 7 O'CLOCK AND UH, I SAID, WELL HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT YOU HAD REPORTED THIS OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW AND UH,
ALLEN - HE WAS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT YESTERDAY, DID HE SAY ANYTHING TO YOU ABOUT HOW HE KNEW THAT IT WAS MAY THE 5TH THAT HE UH, HOW HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN, SAYING GIVEN THE TIMES THAT THEY'VE BEEN UP HERE, THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MAY THE 5TH, THAT HE WAS CERTAIN.
STONE - OKAY, I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ASKING, AND UH, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS BOY, OR HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS BOY AND I WAS ASKING QUESTIONS YOU KNOW, UH HE TOLD THIS BOY WAS SITTING AND WAITING ON US AT THE TRAILER, AND THE WAY THAT I KNOW THAT THIS WAS THAT DATE, HE SAID, SOME WOMAN GOT HIT IN THE TRAILER PARK THAT DAY AND IT INVOLVED SOMEONE TAKING CARE OF SOME CHILDREN. AND HE SAID THAT ALL OF US HAD COME UP HERE, I'VE GOT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND UH, WE KNOW THAT WE CAME BY THERE AND THAT'S THE DATE THAT THIS WOMAN GOT HIT. NOW, IT WAS UNCLEAR TO ME THAT SOMEONE HIT HER, WITH A FIST, OR SOMEONE HIT HER WITH A CAR. UH, I DON'T KNOW HE JUST SAID, A WOMAN GOT HIT IN THE TRAILER PARK THAT DAY AND WE WERE DISCUSSING IT AND HE SAYS THAT WAS ON MAY THE 5TH. SO, THAT'S ALL I KNOW ABOUT THAT.
ALLEN - OKAY, I'M GOING TO CONCLUDE THIS INTERVIEW , THE TIME IS NOW 12:00 NOON.