THIS IS JOHN FOGLEMAN, DEPUTY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY FOR CRITTENDEN COUNTY, ARKANSAS. IT IS 2:33 P.M. SEPTEMBER 10, 1993. PRESENT IS DOMINI TEER, HER APPOINTED ATTORNEY, GERALD COLEMAN, HER MOTHER DIANE TEER, MYSELF AND INSPECTOR GITCHELL OF THE WEST MEMPHIS POLICE DEPARTMENT. DOMINI, IN ORDER TO DO THIS, YOU'RE HERE PURSUANT TO A PROSECUTING ATTORNEY SUBPEONA, SO TO DO THAT, YOU'LL HAVE TO BE PUT UNDER OATH. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. YOU NEED TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU'LL TELL THE TRUTH IN THIS STATEMENT YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE ME PURSUANT TO THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY SUBPEONA. TELL ME THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. YOU NEED TO SPEAK OUT.
DOMINI- YES I DO.
FOGLEMAN- STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
DOMINI- DOMINI TEER...
FOGLEMAN- GO AHEAD.
DOMINI-DOMINI TEER, 683C WESTLAKE DRIVE.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, AND HOW OLD ARE YOU DOMINI?
DOMINI- 16.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, WHAT IS YOUR FULL NAME?
DOMINI- DOMINI ALIA TEER.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT IS YOUR DATE OF BIRTH?
DOMINI- 21 UM, 11/21/76.
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU GO TO SCHOOL?
DOMINI- NO
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, WHEN DID YOU LAST ATTEND SCHOOL?
DOMINI- UM...LAST YEAR, IN THE 10TH GRADE.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT TIME, I MEAN DID YOU GO THE WHOLE YEAR?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- WHEN DID YOU LEAVE SCHOOL?
DOMINI- ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR.
FOGLEMAN- WAS IT BEFORE OR AFTER CHRISTMAS, OR DO YOU REMEMBER?
DOMINI- I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER IT WAS BEFORE OR AFTER CHRISTMAS?
DOMINI- I THINK IT WAS BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. AND WHY DID YOU LEAVE SCHOOL?
DOMINI- I GOT PREGNANT.
FOGLEMAN- THAT WAS WHY YOU LEFT SCHOOL?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED AT YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS?
DOMINI- I GUESS ABOUT A YEAR.
FOGLEMAN- COULD YOU SCOOT FORWARD A LITTLE BIT. YOU'RE VERY SOFT-SPOKEN. OKAY. AND TRY TO SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT.
DOMINI- OKAY.
FOGLEMAN- ABOUT HOW LONG?
DOMINI- ABOUT, ALMOST A YEAR.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT WHERE DID YOU LIVE BEFORE THAT?
DOMINI- BELVEDERE APARTMENTS.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT AND BEFORE THAT WHERE DID YOU LIVE?
DOMINI- DANNER.
FOGLEMAN- BEFORE THAT.
DOMINI- KIWANI, ILLINOIS.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, WHO DID YOU LIVE WITH IN ILLINOIS?
DOMINI- MY DAD.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, WHO ELSE LIVED THERE?
DOMINI- HIS GIRLFRIEND.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, HOW LONG DID YOU LIVE WITH THEM?
DOMINI- UH....ABOUT 2 YEARS.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. WHEN DID YOU MOVE BACK HERE ABOUT? HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN YOU MOVED BACK HERE?
DOMINI- WHEN I MOVED BACK HERE, I WAS 15.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WHY DID YOU MOVE BACK?
DOMINI- BECAUSE ME AND MY DAD DON'T GET A LONG VERY WELL.
FOGLEMAN- DID YOU DAD OR HIS GIRLFRIEND PRACTICE ANY WITCHCRAFT, OR...
DOMINI- NO SIR.
FOGLEMAN- ENGAGE IN ANY KIND OF OCCULT.....
DOMINI- NO SIR.
FOGLEMEN- TYPE BEHAVIOR. THEY DID NOT.
DOMINI- NO SIR.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WHERE DID YOU LIVE BEFORE YOU LIVED IN KIWANI, ILLINOIS?
DOMINI- BACKHERE IN WEST MEMPHIS.
FOGLEMAN- WHERE WAS THAT? DO YOU REMEMBER?
DOMINI- ON DANNER.
FOGLEMAN- AND BEFORE THAT WHERE DID YOU LIVE?
DOMINI- I LIVED BACK IN ILLINOIS, I WENT BACK AND FORTH FOR A WHILE.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. HAD YOU EVER LIVED IN CALIFORNIA?
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- WHEN DID YOU LIVE IN CALIFORNIA?
DOMINI- EVER SINCE I WAS 12 YEARS OLD AND THEN I MOVED HERE TO ARKANSAS.
FOGLEMAN- YOU LIVED FROM THE TIME YOU WERE 12....
DOMINI- NO. EVER SINCE I WAS 12...
FOGLEMAN- UP UNTIL YOU WERE 12?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, SO FOR 12 YEARS YOU LIVED THERE?
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. AND WHO DID YOU LIVE WITH IN CALIFORNIA?
DOMINI- MY MOM AND DAD.
FOGLEMAN- YOU MOM AND DAD TOGETHER?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. AND UH, IS, THAT WAS IN ONTARIO, CALIFORNIA?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- IS THAT ANYWHERE NEAR UPLAND, CALIFORNIA?
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, HOW CLOSE IS THAT TO UPLAND?
DOMINI- UH, IT'S ABOUT A MILE.
FOGLEMAN- IT'S REAL CLOSE.
DOMINI- IT'S REAL CLOSE.
FOGLEMAN- LIKE MARION AND WEST MEMPHIS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. OKAY UM, TELL ME ABOUT SOUND. THAT ORGANIZATION.
DOMINI- IT'S SOMETHING MY COUSIN DOES JUST TO TAKE UP TIME.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WHAT DOES SOUND STAND FOR?
DOMINI- SECRET ORDER OF THE UNDEAD. IT'S LIKE A LITTLE CLUB.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. AND THEY PUBLISH A MAGAZINE THOUGH, RIGHT?
DOMINI- FLYERS.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. AND WHAT ARE THE UNDEAD? ARE THOSE LIKE ZOMBIES?
DOMINI- NO, IT'S JUST LIKE VAMPIRES AND STUFF.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. AND HOW OLD IS YOUR COUSIN?
DOMINI- UH, SHE'S ABOUT, SHE'D BE ABOUT 23 OR 24 NOW.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. DID YOU SPEND MUCH TIME WITH YOUR COUSIN WHEN YOU WERE IN CALIFORNIA?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DID. WHAT'S HER NAME?
DOMINI- TAMMY JO TEER. BUT WE JUST CALL HER T.J.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. IS SHE SINGLE?
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- HAVE ANY CHILDREN?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- HAS SHE EVER ENGAGED IN ANY WITCHCRAFT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
DOMINI- SHE DID, SHE GOT WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT DID.
FOGLEMAN- WHEN WAS THAT? WHEN YOU WERE LIVING OUT THERE.
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, DID THEY HAVE A NAME, OR....
DOMINI- NO, THEY WERE JUST....
FOGLEMAN- WHAT KIND OF WITCHCRAFT DID THEY PRACTICE?
DOMINI- THEY JUST BURNT CANDLES. THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WELL I MEAN THERE ARE DIFFERENT...WHAT DO THEY CALL THOSE THINGS, COVENS AND...
DOMINI- NO, THEY WEREN'T LIKE THAT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WELL WHAT WERE THEY LIKE?
DOMINI- THEY WERE JUST A GROUP OF FRIENDS.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, BUT THEY SAID THEY WERE PRACTICING WITCHCRAFT, THESE FRIENDS?
DOMINI- YEAH, PRETTY MUCH.
FOGLEMAN- DID YOU EVER SIT IN ON ANY OF THEIR MEETINGS?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- WELL, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DID?
DOMINI- WELL, MY COUSIN TELLS ME STUFF.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. SO YOUR COUSIN...
DOMINI- AND I KNOW HER FRIENDS. I KNEW WHO THEY WERE, YOU KNOW.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. SO THEY DIDN'T CLAIM TO BE WITCHES OR ANYTHING ELSE?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, HOW LONG HAS DAMION BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS WITCHCRAFT?
DOMINI- UM....BEFORE ME AND HIM WERE GOING OUT, HE WAS.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. HOW OFTEN WOULD HE DO THINGS RELATED TO THAT?
DOMINI- LIKE HOW DO YOU MEAN?
FOGLEMAN- WELL, I MEAN DID THEY HAVE MEETINGS, OR...
DOMINI- NOT WHEN HE WAS GOING WITH ME.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. YOU DO KNOW THAT HE CLAIMS TODAY THAT HE'S A WICCA? OKAY. BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF MEETINGS OR ANYTHING.
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- HE JUST...
DOMINI- CLAIMED TO BE A WITCH.
FOGLEMAN- BUT HE DIDN'T MEET WITH OTHER WITCHES WHILE HE WAS GOING WITH YOU?
DOMINI- THE ONLY PERSON HE MET WITH WHILE HE WAS GOING WITH ME WAS JASON.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. AS FAR AS YOU KNOW?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THESE OTHER GIRLFRIENDS OF DAMION'S. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THEM?
DOMINI- WHAT OTHER GIRLFRIENDS? I KNOW THIS GIRL THAT HE WAS GOING OUT WITH BEFORE HE WENT OUT WITH ME.
FOGLEMAN- WHO'S THAT?
DOMINI- DIANA HOLCOMB.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HER?
DOMINI- YEAH, SHE'S A KOOK.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY WHAT TELLS YOU SHE'S A KOOK?
DOMINI- SHE'S THE ONE THAT'S OBVIOUSLY INVOLVED IN WITCHCRAFT AND STUFF BECAUSE OF BY THE WAY SHE TALKS ABOUT IT.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH. WHAT DOES SHE SAY?
DOMINI- JUST, SHE COME UP WITH OFF THE WALL STUFF.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WHAT KIND OF STUFF? JUST TO GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE.
DOMINI- JUST LIKE, HIM AND HER WOULD BE INVOLVED IN WITCHCRAFT AND STUFF. THEY WOULD GO OUT AND READ BOOKS AND CRAP ABOUT IT.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH. OKAY, BUT YOU AND DAMION NEVER DID THAT. YOU NEVER WENT TO AN ES POT?
DOMINI- I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT AN ES POT IS.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DON'T?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- WELL, DO YOU KNOW WHO JENNIFER IS?
DOMINI- LAST NAME, I KNOW A FEW JENNIFER'S.
FOGLEMAN- LIVES IN MEMPHIS.
DOMINI- UH...SHE...YEAH, I KNOW ABOUT HER. I DON'T KNOW HER PERSONALLY.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY WHAT'S HER RELATIONSHIP WITH DAMION?
DOMINI- JASON WAS GOING OUT WITH A GIRL NAMED HOLLY AND HOLLY WAS JENNIFER'S BEST FRIEND.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH. IS THAT WHAT DAMION TOLD YOU?
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- I THINK I'VE SEEN HER PROBABLY ONE TIME.
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU KNOW HEATHER?
DOMINI- YEAH, THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE OF JASON'S GIRLFRIENDS.
FOGLEMAN- HOW MANY GIRLFRIENDS DOES JASON HAVE?
DOMINI- JASON STARTED GOING OUT WITH THE HOLLY GIRL, AND THEN HIM AND HER DIDN'T GET ALONG OR WHATEVER AND THEY BROKE UP AND THEN HE STARTED GOING OUT WITH HEATHER.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. HOW ABOUT VICKI HUTCHISON?
DOMINI- VICKI....
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- GOT SUPPOSEDLY RED HAIR?
FOGLEMAN- I DON'T KNOW WHAT COLOR HAIR SHE'S GOT.
DOMINI- WELL, I'VE HEARD ABOUT HER TOO. BUT I DON'T KNOW HER EITHER.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, AND YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HER AND DAMION GOING TO AN ES POT.
DOMINI- UH UH. THEY DIDN'T. I MEAN, HE OBVIOUSLY SEEN HER ONE TIME, AND SHE COMES UP AND SHE SAYS THAT SHE SLEPT WITH HIM 6 TIMES, AND THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE UNLESS SHE CRAWLED IN BED WITH ME AND HIM, AND I KNOW SHE SURE DIDN'T.
FOGLEMAN- DID YA'LL SLEEP TOGETHER EVERY NIGHT?
DOMINI- YEAH, PRETTY MUCH.
FOGLEMAN- HOW OLD ARE YOU?
DOMINI- 16.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. OKAY, HOW LONG HAS DAMION HAD THE PENTAGRAM ON HIS CHEST, THE TATTOO?
DOMINI- UM....SINCE AROUND SINCE LAST YEAR.
FOGLEMAN- IS THAT A TATTOO THAT HE DID HIMSELF, OR THAT HE HAD DONE SOMEWHERE?
DOMINI- HE DID IT HIMSELF.
FOGLEMAN- HOW DID HE DO IT, DO YOU KNOW? HOW DID HE DO IT?
DOMINI- YOU KNOW THE EXACTORKNIVES?
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- THE ONES YOU PRESS THE BUTTON AND IT COMES OUT.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- ON OF THOSE AND JUST INK ON IT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. HOW ABOUT THE E-V-I-L ON HIS KNUCKLES?
DOMINI- SAME WAY.
FOGLEMAN- SO HE DID THE SAME THING. HOW LONG HAS HE HAD THAT ONE?
DOMINI- ABOUT A LITTLE BIT AFTER HE GOT THE PENTAGRAM.
FOGLEMAN- DID HE DO THE ONES THAT YOU'VE GOT?
DOMINI- UH UH.
FOGLEMAN- HOW DID YOU HAVE THOSE DONE?
DOMINI- THIS ONE I DID MYSLEF. THIS ONE ON MY LEG, I HAD A FRIEND OF MINE TO IT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WAS IT DONE THE SAME WAY?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. HOW WERE THEY DONE?
DOMINI- THIS ONE WAS DONE WITH A STICK PEN AND INK AND THE OTHER ONE WAS DONE WITH A TATTOO GUN.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. TELL ME ABOUT DAMION AND HIS CAT SKULLS. YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANY CAT SKULLS. DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM CARRYING THEM TO SCHOOL?
DOMINI- I HEARD THE OTHER KIDS SAY HE CARRIED THEM TO SCHOOL, BUT I JUST FIGURED THE WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE HIM A BAD REPUTATION OR SOMETHING.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, YOU DIDN'T KNOW HE FOOLED AROUND WITH THOSE?
DOMINI- I KNEW HE HAD ONE, BUT HE LEFT IT IN HIS ROOM.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- BUT HE FOUND IT ON THE HIGHWAY.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WERE YOU WITH HIM WHEN HE FOUND IT?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD YOU.
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- WHO IS MR. BARTUSH? DO YOU KNOW HIM? ALRIGHT, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT, THINK BACK TO MAY THE 5TH, WEDNESDAY, MAY THE 5TH? I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'M GOING TO BACK UP. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE FIRST. UM....YOU KNOW ANY OF THOSE GIRLS IN THOSE PICTURES 1, 2, 3?
DOMINI- NOPE.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. UM....NOW DID....YOU WENT TO THE HOSPITAL IN LITTLE ROCK ONE TIME, RIGHT, OKAY. UM, TELL ME ABOUT YOUR....YOU ACCUSED YOUR MOTHER OF DRINKING BLOOD IN THE PAST.
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DON'T REMEMBER THAT?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, SO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BLOOD DRINKING?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT DAMION DRINKING BLOOD?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- YOU'VE NEVER SEEN HIM DO THAT?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU REMEMBER DISCUSSING WITH MR. DRIVER ABOUT WITCHCRAFT AND VAMPIRISM?
DOMINI- HE ASKED ME ABOUT IT.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT DID YOU TELL HIM?
DOMINI- HE ASKED ME IF DAMION WAS INVOLVED IN WITCHCRAFT. AND I SAID I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA. I MEAN, HE WAS WHEN HE WAS GOING OUT WITH THAT ONE GIRL. AND HE SAID, WELL IS HE INVOLVED WITH VAMPIRES AND ALL THAT? I SAID, NO HE READS BOOKS ABOUT THEM, BUT THAT'S ALL I KNOW.
FOGLEMAN- BUT YOU DON'T REMEMBER IN MR. DRIVER'S PRESENCE TALKING ABOUT YOUR MOTHER DRINKING BLOOD.
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DON'T REMEMBER SAYING THAT. ALRIGHT, NOW I WANT YOU TO GO TO MAY THE 5TH. OKAY BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE TAPES. IT'S NOW 2:50 P.M., SEPTEMBER THE 10TH.
WE'RE BACK ON THE RECORD WITH DOMINI TEER. IT IS 2:51 P.M., FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10TH, 1993 WITH DOMINI TEER, HER MOTHER, DIANE, HER APPOINTED ATTORNEY, GERALD COLEMAN IN PLACE OF HER FORMER ATTORNEYS SCOTT DAVIDSON AND VOWELL PRICE, MYSELF AND INSPECTOR GITCHELL. ALRIGHT, DOMINI, I WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO MAY THE 5TH, WEDNESDAY, MAY THE 5TH. WHAT DID YOU DO THAT DAY?
DOMINI- UM, I GOT UP IN THE MORNING, AND...
FOGLEMAN- DID DAMION SPEND THE NIGHT WITH YOU THAT NIGHT?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- DID HE NOT?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- HE WAS AT HOME. AND UH, A FRIEND OF HIS, KEN, HE DIDN'T LIVE AROUND HERE ANYMORE. BUT, HE SKIPPED SCHOOL, AND CAME OVER TO MY HOUSE, AND WE WAS ALL WAITING FOR HIM AND JASON, DAMION AND JASON WERE COMING TO MY HOUSE.
FOGLEMAN- O.K. LET ME STOP YOU FOR A MINUTE. ABOUT WHAT TIME DID KEN COME OVER?
DOMINI- IT WAS ABOUT 7 IN THE MORNING.
FOGLEMAN- OK. WHAT IS KEN'S LAST NAME?
DOMINI- I DON'T KNOW.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DON'T KNOW HIS NAME?
DOMINI- UH UH.
FOGLEMAN- JUST KEN.
DOMINI- YEAH THAT'S WHAT WE ALL CALL HIM.
FOGLEMAN- WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW HIM?
DOMINI- UH, ABOUT, ABOUT....DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE KIDS WAS KILLED?
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- ABOUT 2 DAYS AFTER THAT. AND THEN HE MOVED, AND WE NEVER...
FOGLEMAN- WHERE DID HE LIVE?
DOMINI- HE LIVED IN LAKESHORE.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WHERE IN LAKESHORE?
DOMINI- I DON'T KNOW.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT TRAILER OR ANYTHING? OKAY.
DOMINI- HE USED TO COME OVER TO JASON'S HOUSE.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, SO HE GOT TO YOUR HOUSE, OR YOU TRAILER AT ABOUT 7 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. AND THEN WHAT DID YA'LL DO?
DOMINI- SAT AROUND AND WAITED FOR JASON AND DAMION.
FOGLEMAN- AND DID THE GET THERE?
DOMINI- DAMION GOT THERE AROUND 1, AND THEN ME AND HIM AND KEN JUST KIND OF SAT AROUND THE HOUSE WAITING FOR JASON TO GET OUT OF SCHOOL.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YA'LL HAD PLANNED BEFORE, ABOUT GETTING TOGETHER?
DOMINI- YEAH, WE HAD PLANNED IT A DAY BEFORE.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, WHAT HAD YA'LL PLANNED ON DOING?
DOMINI- WELL, WE PLANNED ON JASON SKIPPING SCHOOL, AND JUST US HANGING AROUND, LIKE, AT THE MALL AND STUFF.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- AND JASON WENT TO SCHOOL THAT DAY. SO; WE HAD TO WAIT FOR HIM.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. AND, SO YOU SAT AROUND WAITING FOR JASON AND DAMION AND THEN DAMION CAME ABOUT 1 O'CLOCK.
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. AND THEN AFTER HE CAME, WHAT DID YA'LL DO?
DOMINI- SAT AROUND AND WAITED FOR JASON.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. DID JASON COME?
DOMINI- UH HUH. WHEN HE GOT OUT OF SCHOOL THAT DAY.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT TIME DID HE GET THERE?
DOMINI- UM, IT WAS ABOUT 3:25.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT TIME DOES SCHOOL LET OUT?
DOMINI- 3:15.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, SO HE GOT THERE ABOUT 3:25, AND AFTER HE GOT THERE, WHAT DID YA'LL DO?
DOMINI- WE WALKED BACK TO JASON'S HOUSE, AND THEN JASON...
FOGLEMAN- LET ME STOP YOU A MINUTE. DO YOU KNOW WHETHER WHEN HE GOT OFF THE BUS, WHETHER HE CAME STRAIGHT TO YOUR HOUSE, OR WHETHER HE WENT ON THE HIS HOUSE?
DOMINI- HE WENT HOME.
FOGLEMAN- AND THEN HE CAME TO YOUR HOUSE?
DOMINI- YEAH, WE ALL WENT BACK TO HIS HOUSE.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. AND WHO WAS AT JASON'S HOUSE WHEN YOU GOT THERE?
DOMINI- UM...HIS LITTLE BROTHERS.
FOGLEMAN- WHT ARE THERE NAMES?
DOMINI- MATTHEW AND TERRY. AND HE CALLED HIS MOM, AND HIS MOM TOLD HIM HE NEEDED TO GO OVER TO HIS UNCLE'S AND MOW THE LAWN.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- SO, WE ALL GOT UP AND WE ALL WALKED OVER TO HIS UNCLE'S.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. ABOUT WHAT TIME DID YA'LL GET TO HIS UNCLE'S?
DOMINI- UM...4 O'CLOCK(INAUDIBLE) SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
FOGLEMAN- 4 OR 4:15, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
DOMINI- YEAH, IT WAS AROUND THERE.
FOGLEMAN- AND HOW DID YA'LL GET THERE?
DOMINI- WE WALKED.
FOGLEMAN- WHICH WAY DID YA'LL WALK?
DOMINI- WE WALKED, YOU KNOW ON THE HIGHWAY, NOT THE SERVICE ROAD, BUT THE HIGHWAY.
FOGLEMAN- THE INTERSTATE?
DOMINI- YEAH. WE WALKED OVER THE INTERSTATE, THROUGH THE WAL-MART PARKING LOT. AND YOU KNOW AROUND THE SIDE RIGHT THERE?
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- ...OF THE BUILDING. WE WALKED AROUND THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING TOWARDS THE BACK...
FOGLEMAN- THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE?
DOMINI- YEAH, THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE.
FOGLEMAN-OKAY.
DOMINI- AND STRAIGHT DOWN TO HIS UNCLE'S HOUSE ON THOSE BACK STREETS.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
GITCHELL- HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO MAKE THAT WALK?
DOMINI- IT DIDN'T TAKE US VERY LONG, ABOUT 10 OR 15 MINUTES.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT AFTER YOU GOT...YOU GOT THERE ABOUT 4 OR 4:15, THEN WHAT DID YOU DO?
DOMINI- ME AND DAMION AND KEN, AND JASON MOWED THE LAWN, AND WE ALL SAT WATCHING HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
FOGLEMAN- DID YA'LL ALL MOW THE LAWN SOME.
DOMINI- NO, JUST JASON MOWED THE LAWN. WE ALL WATCHED.
FOGLEMAN- BUT YA'LL WATCHED.
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. THEN WHAT HAPPENED?
DOMINI- WE SAT THERE FOR A WHILE WATCHING HIM MOW THE LAWN, AND THEN ME AND DAMION GOT UP AND WALKED TO THE LAUNDRYMAT...
FOGLEMAN- LET ME STOP YOU A MINUTE BEFORE WE GET TO THE LAUNDRYMAT? UM...DID DAMION, EXCUSE ME, DID JASON GET THROUGH MOWING?
DOMINI- UH UH.
FOGLEMAN- DID YA'LL SEE ANYBODY THERE AT THE HOUSE? HIS UNCLE, OR?
DOMINI- HIS UNCLE.
FOGLEMAN- DID YOU SEE HIM? OKAY, DID YA'LL TALK TO HIM? BUT, YOU DID SEE HIM.
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- DID HE COME OUTSIDE?
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- WHERE DID YA'LL SIT AND WATCH JASON?
DOMINI- ON THE BACK PORCH.
FOGLEMAN- AND WHERE WAS THE UNCLE?
DOMINI- GETTING THE LAWNMOWER OUT FOR JASON.
FOGLEMAN- AND WHERE WAS THE LAWNMOWER?
DOMINI- IN THE SHED.
FOGLEMAN- AND THE SHED IS IN THE BACK?
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, AND YA'LL WERE THERE ON THE BACK PORCH?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, AND HOW MUCH DID HE MOW BEFORE YA'LL GOT UP?
DOMINI- WELL, HE MOWED IN A CIRCLE AROUND THE YARD.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- HE MOWED ABOUT LIKE, THREE CIRCLES, AND THEN WE ALL GOT UP AND LEFT.
FOGLEMAN- OK, YOU...
DOMINI- ME AND DAMION.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT ABOUT KEN?
DOMINI- HE STAYED THERE.
FOGLEMAN- WHERE DID JASON GO?
DOMINI- HE MOWED THE YARD.
FOGLEMAN- WHY DID YA'LL GET UP?
DOMINI- DAMION SAID HE HAD TO CALL HIS MOM.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WHY DID HE HAVE TO CALL HIS MOM?
DOMINI- TO COME PICK HIM UP. I DON'T KNOW, HE JUST CALLED HIS MOM.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WHAT DID YA'LL TALK ABOUT ON THE WAY FROM LAKESHORE TO JASON'S UNCLE'S HOUSE?
DOMINI- ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO JASON AT SCHOOL, AND GOOFED OFF.
FOGLEMAN- NOTHING IN PARTICULAR.
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- DID YA'LL TALK ABOUT ANY PLANS ABOUT WHAT YA'LL WERE GOING TO DO THAT NIGHT OR THE NEXT DAY?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- SO, YA'LL HAD PLANNED FOR THAT DAY, BUT YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUT ANY PLANS FOR THE NEXT DAY, OR ANYTHING.
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- AND YOU WENT TO THE LAUNDRYMAT?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- AND WHAT DID YOU DO AT THE LAUNDRYMAT?
DOMINI- CALLED HIS MOM.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, AND ABOUT WHAT TIME WAS THAT?
DOMINI- UM...PROBABLY ABOUT 5 OR 5:30, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. THEN WHO CAME TO GET HIM?
DOMINI- HIS MOM AND HIS SISTER.
FOGLEMAN- HIS MOM AND HIS SISTER?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- ANYBODY ELSE?
DOMINI- I THINK HIS DAD WAS THERE TOO.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DON'T REMEMBER?
DOMINI- YEAH, HIS DAD WAS THERE.
FOGLEMAN- ARE YOU SURE?
DOMINI- UH HUH. CAUSE HE WAS DRIVING THE CAR.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT AND THEY PICKED YOU UP?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED?
DOMINI- THEY TOOK ME HOME.
FOGLEMAN- ABOUT WHAT TIME DID YOU GET HOME?
DOMINI- UM, AROUND, LIKE 5:45, 6:00. IN BETWEEN THERE.
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT WAS ON T.V. WHEN YOU CAME IN?
DOMINI- I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE T.V., I WALKED THE DOG.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, YOU JUST WALKED IN AND WALKED THE DOG/
DOMINI- YEAH, I JUST CAME IN AND I SAT AT THE KITCHEN TABLE JUST FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES, AND THEN I GOT BORED, AND THEN I GOT UP, GOT THE DOG'S LEASH AND WALKED TO THE STORE WITH THE DOG.
FOGLEMAN- HOW LONG DID YOU WALK THE DOG?
DOMINI- OH, PROBABLY ABOUT 10 MINUTES.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. AND THEN YOU CAME BACK IN?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU REMEMBER WHT WAS ON WHEN YOU CAME BACK IN AFTER WALKING THE DOG FOR ABOUT 10 MINUTES?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT?
DOMINI- CAUSE, TIMETRACKS WAS FIXIN TO COME ON.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- AND I TOOK A SHOWER, CAUSE MOM HAD TOLD ME WHAT HAPPENED WHILE TIMETRACKS ENDED. TIL THE END OF TIMETRACKS SHE HAD TOLD ME WHAT HAPPENED.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, BUT IT WAS JUST COMING ON WHEN YOU CAME IN/
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- BUT, YOU DIDN'T WATCH IT? YOU TOOK A SHOWER, ALRIGHT, THEN WHAT HAPPENED?
DOMINI- THEN I GOT OUT OF THE SHOWER, AND I LAID IN BED FOR A WHILE, AND DAMION CALLED, AND ME AN HIM BICKERED BACK AND FORTH FOR ALMOST AN HOUR, AND THEN SHE MADE ME GET OFF THE PHONE.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT TIME DID HE CALL?
DOMINI- ABOUT 10.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT WERE YA'LL BICKERING ABOUT?
DOMINI- JASON, YOU KNOW, JASON'S GIRLFRIEND HOLLY, CALLED UH, KEPT CALLING DAMION, CRYING ABOUT JASON. AND I DIDN'T LIKE HER CALLING DAMION CRYING TO HIM ABOUT JASON.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, I THOUGHT THAT JASON AND HOLLY HAD ALREADY BROKEN UP AND HE WAS DATING HEATHER.
DOMINI- UH UH. HE'D...NO. HE WAS GOING OUT WITH HOLLY, AND JUST A LITTLE BIT BEFORE YA'LL ARRESTED HIM, HE HAD STARTED GOING OUT WITH HEATHER. BUT, HIM AND HOLLY WERE STILL...THEY WEREN'T GOING OUT, BUT THEY WERE JUST LIKE, SEEING EACH OTHER.
FOGLEMAN- I SEE.
DOMINI- CAUSE SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BREAKING UP WITH SOME OTHER BOYFRIEND WHILE THEY WAS TRYING TO GO OUT.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH. OKAY. AND YA'LL ARGUES ABOUT THAT/
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WHY?
DOMINI- BECAUSE SHE WAS CRYING TO HIM, AND...AND HE WAS JUST LIKE, ALL POOR HOLLY, AND WHEN I COME CRYING TO HIM, IT WASN'T ALL POOR HOLLY. IT WAS, HE WOULD GET MAD BECAUSE I WAS HAVING MOOD SWINGS ALL THE TIME, AND i WOULD JUST (INAUDIBLE) AND HE GOT MAD ABOUT IT, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. WE KEPT TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO HIM THAT I WAS (INAUDIBLE) TO DO THAT.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH..
DOMINI- AND I GOT MAD BECAUSE HE WAS SYMPATHIZING WITH HOLLY, AND I DIDN'T WANT HOLLY CALLING HIM AT ALL.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, SO YA'LL ARGUED..
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- DID YOU ARGUE THAT AFTERNOON/
DOMINI- UH UH.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DIDN'T ARGUE THAT AFTERNOON?
GITCHELL- HOW COME YOU WEREN'T TOGETHER THAT AFTERNOON? YOU'RE USUALLY TOGETHER ALL THE TIME.
DOMINI- HE WAS JUST AT HOME. HE HAD TO GO TO THE DOCTOR THAT MORNING.
FOGLEMAN- DID HE SPEND THE NIGHT THAT NIGHT AT YOUR HOUSE?
DOMINI- THAT WEDNESDAY
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH. DID HE?
DOMINI- NO. HE DIDN'T SPEND THE NIGHT THAT WEDNESDAY.
FOGLEMAN- HOW BOUT TUESDAY?
DOMINI- NOW, TUESDAY, YES. THURSDAY. THURSDAY HE SPENT THE NIGHT BECAUSE WE GOT IN ANOTHER ARGUMENT BECAUSE OF THE SAME PEOPLE AND I WANTED HIM TO SPEND THE NIGHT WITH ME THAT NIGHT CAUSE...
FOGLEMAN- CAUSE YOU WERE MAD AT HIM?
DOMINI- NO, WE WEREN'T MAD AT EACH OTHER, WE GOT BACK...WE WERE OKAY AFTER THAT. BUT I STILL WANTED HIM TO STAY WITH ME.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, SO THURSDAY NIGHT HE SPENT THE NIGHT WITH YOU?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- NOW WHAT ABOUT TUESDAY NIGHT, I WASN'T CLEAR ON THAT. I THOUGHT YOU SAID HE DID, AND THEN I THOUGHT YOU SAID HE DIDN'T AND SO I WASN'T CLEAR, ON TUESDAY NIGHT.
DOMINI- ON TUESDAY? UM....YEAH, HE DID SPEND THE NIGHT TUESDAY, CAUSE HE WENT HOME WEDNESDAY MORNING.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- CAUSE HE HAD A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WHAT TIME DID HE GO HOME TUESDAY MORNING? DO YOU REMEMBER?
DOMINI- IT WAS EARLY. UM...BEFORE 12 I KNOW THAT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, HOW ABOUT...LET'S SEE, THURSDAY NIGHT HER SPENT THE NIGHT WITH YOU. HOW ABOUT FRIDAY?
DOMINI- UH UH.
FOGLEMAN- HE DIDN'T SPEND THE NIGHT FRIDAY. DID YOU SEE HIM FRIDAY? BESIDES FRIDAY MORNING WHEN YOU WOKE UP?
DOMINI- I SPENT THE NIGHT WITH HIM FRIDAY.
FOGLEMAN- OH, YOU SPENT THE NIGHT WITH HIM FRIDAY NIGHT.
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. ALRIGHT. NOW, DO...THERE IS A PERSON WHO SAYS THAT THEY SAW YOU AND DAMION WALKING ON THE SERVICE ROAD THAT NIGHT.
DOMINI- WE NEVER WALKED ON THE SERVICE ROAD. EVER.
FOGLEMAN- YA'LL WALK ON THE INTERSTATE?
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, YOU WERE NOT WITH HIM. HAS HE TOLD YOU THAT HE WAS WITH JASON WALKING AROUND THAT NIGHT?
DOMINI- I DON'T KNOW. NUMBER ONE HE DOESN'T WALK ON THE SERVICE ROAD, WHETHER HE'S WITH JASON OR HE'S WITH ME. HE JUST DOESN'T WALK ON THE SERVICE ROAD BECAUSE IT'S QUICKER TO GO OVER THE INTERSTATE.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. DID HE TELL YOU THAT HE WENT WALKING WITH JASON ANYWHERE THAT NIGHT?
(DOMINI PAUSES)
FOGLEMAN- YOU QUIT LOOKING AT ME. HE DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT.
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- HE DIDN'T TELL ME HE WAS WALKING WITH JASON ANYWHERE AT NIGHT, CAUSE USUALLY JASON HAS TO BE IN THE HOUSE. CAUSE JASON'S MOM IS STRICT.
FOGLEMAN- SHE'S STRICT.
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, STRICT ABOUT WHAT?
DOMINI- STRICT ABOUT JASON COMING IN. BECAUSE USUALLY SHE'S AT WORK AND SHE WANTS HIM TO TAKE CARE OF HIS LITTLE BROTHERS.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- SO, HE USUALLY DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE AT NIGHT.
FOGLEMAN- DOES SHE NOT CARE ABOUT HIM TAKING CARE OF THEM DURING THE DAY.
DOMINI- SHE WANTS HIM TO TAKE CARE OF THEM DURING THE DAY, BUT SOMETIMES HE JUST GOES AND RUNS AROUND.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, SHE WANTS HIM TO BE THERE DURING THE DAY, BUT SOMETIMES HE JUST GOES AND RUNDS AROUND ANYWAY.
DOMINI- UH HUH. YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- MOST OF THE TIME HE HAS TO TAKE THEM WITH HIM, OR MATT TAGS ALONG WITH THEM.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WHAT KIND OF ALCOHOL DOES DAMION CONSUME? I MEAN, DOES HE DRINK BEER, OR WHISKEY...HE DOESN'T DRINK ANYTHING?
DOMINI- UH UH.
FOGLEMAN- NOTHING. NOTHING AT ALL.
DOMINI- EVER SINCE ME AND HIM HAVE BEEN GOING OUT, NO.
FOGLEMAN- YOU'VE NEVER SEEN HIM CONSUME ANYTHING/
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- UH...HAVE YOU EVER SEEN HIM SMOKE ANY POT, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UM...WHERE'S THE LAST TIME YOU SAW DAMION'S, THAT BELT THAT HE HAS WITH THE METAL STUDS ON IT.
DOMINI- I'VE NEVER SEEN A BELT WITH ANY METAL STUDS ON IT.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DON'T REMEMBER THAT BELT?
DOMINI- I KNOW HE HAD A BRACELET THAT HAD SOME STUDS ON IT. BUT, NOT A BELT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU SAW THE BRACELET WITH THE METAL STUDS ON IT?
DOMINI- UM...IT WAS AROUND HALLOWEEN LAST YEAR. I KNOW HE HAD IT WITH HIM THEN.
FOGLEMAN- HAS HE SAID WHAT HAPPENED TO IT?
DOMINI- UH UH.
FOGLEMAN- YOU NEVER DID ASK HIM?
DOMINI- I DON'T CARE WHAT HE DID WITH HIS BRACELET. I JUST FIGURED HE LOST IT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WAS THIS A.....
DOMINI- YEAH, HE DID HAVE IT ONE DAY AT THE PARK, BECAUSE I WANTED TO WEAR IT, BUT IT WAS TOO TIGHT AROUND MY WRIST, SO I JUST GAVE IT BACK TO HIM.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- SO, I'M PRETTY SURE HE HAS IT UP IN HIS HOUSE SOMEWHERE.
FOGLEMAN- WAS IT BLACK? WAS IT LEATHER?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, AND IT HAD LITTLE METAL STUDS ON IT.
DOMINI- IT WASN'T METAL, I MEAN, THEY WERE JUST FAKE.
FOGLEMAN- BUT, IT HAD SOME KIND OF LITTLE SILVER LOOKING...
DOMINI- YEAH, SILVER THINGS ON IT.
FOGLEMAN-....STUDS ON IT. OKAY. AND THAT DAY IN THE PARK THAT YOU SAW IT, WHEN WAS THAT/
DOMINI- UM...I DON'T REMEMBER.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WAS IT BEFORE OR AFTER THOSE LITTLE KIDS WERE MURDERED?
DOMINI- I THINK AFTER, I'M NOT SURE.
FOGLEMAN- YOU THINK AFTER, BUT YOU'RE NOT SURE? YOU NEED TO SPEAK UP, INSTEAD OF SHAKE YOUR HEAD, OKAY, THE TAPE RECORDER CAN'T PICK UP THAT.
DOMINI- YES. HE DID HAVE TWO BRACELETS. HE HAD ONE WITH THE METAL STUDS AND THEN HE HAD ONE THAT HAD THE RINGS ON IT. CAUSE THE ONE THAT I HAD, HAD THE RINGS ON IT. BUT HE DID HAVE ONE THAT HAD METAL STUDS ON IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE DONE WITH THAT. I GUESS THREW IT AWAY, CAUSE HE GOT THE OTHER ONE.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. NOW TELL ME ABOUT DAMION'S COLLECTION OF KNIVES.
DOMINI- HE DOESN'T HAVE A COLLECTION OF KNIVES.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE KNIVES DAMION HAD.
DOMINI- I KNOW JASON GOT, UH...LAST YEAR, NOT LAST YEAR, BUT THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, HAD A MACHETE THAT HE GOT OFF ONE OF MY EX-BOYFRIEND'S THAT THEY TRADED FOR SOMETHING FOR IT. BUT THEY LOST THAT.
FOGLEMAN- TELL ME THE EX-BOYFRIEND'S NAME.
DOMINI- HE'S NOT AN EX-BOYFRIEND, HE'S LIKE AN EX, EX, EX-BOYFRIEND.
FOGLEMAN- WELL, GIVE ME THE TRIPLE X BOYFRIEND'S NAME.
DOMINI- GARRETT
FOGLEMAN- GARRETT?
DOMINI- SCHWARTING.
FOGLEMAN- SCHWARTING. OKAY, BUT YOU DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT DAMION HAVING A BUNCH OF KNIVES? OKAY, HIS DAD TOLD US ABOUT DAMION HAD THREE OR FOUR KNIVES AND YOU HAVEN'T EVER SEEN ANY OF THOSE?
DOMINI- YEAH, I SAW ONE THAT HE HAD. IT WAS...IT WAS LIKE, AN EGYPTIAN KNIFE. IT HAD THE BRASS HANDLE, AND ABOUT THAT LONG. BUT HE TRADED IT OFF WITH SOME KID.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WHEN DID HE DO THAT?
DOMINI- ABOUT 3 OR 4 DAYS AFTER HE GOT IT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- CAUSE HE BOUGHT JASON ONE TOO, AND I THINK JASON WOUND UP TRADING HIS TOO.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- OR GAVE IT TO HIS LITTLE BROTHER AND HE TRADED IT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY- DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY TRADED FOR?
DOMINI- PROBABLY TAPES AND T-SHIRTS. THAT'S USUALLY ALL THEY EVER TRADED FOR.
FOGLMAN- BUT YOU DON'T KNOW. OKAY. WHAT WAS DAMION WEARING THAT DAY ON THE 5TH?
DOMINI- I DON'T REMEMBER.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT ABOUT YOU? DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT YOU WERE WEARING?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WHAT ABOUT JASON? YOU DON'T REMEMBER ABOUT HIM EITHER.
DOMINI- NO, I NEVER PAY NO ATTENTION REALLY.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. UH, DID YOU EVER SEE JASON WEAR ANY BLUE JEANS WITH THE KNEES TORN OUT OF THEM? WITH HOLES IN THE KNEES.
DOMINI- HE'S GOT SOME JEANS WITH HOLES IN THEM, UM...
FOGLEMAN- AND YOU HAD SOME TOO, RIGHT?
DOMINI- WHAT, JEANS WITH HOLES IN THE KNEES?
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH. THE ONE'S THAT JASON HAD, WHAT COLOR WERE THEY?
DOMINI- WHAT? THE ONE'S JASON HAD WITH THE HOLES IN THE KNEES.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- HE HAD A PAIR OF GRAY ONES.
FOGLEMAN- ANY OTHER COLORS?
DOMINI- I CAN'T TELL YOU, I DON'T EVEN KNOW. THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES I EVER SAW WITH HOLES IN THEM.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WHAT HAS DAMION TOLD YOU ABOUT WHERE HE WAS THAT NIGHT, ON THE 5TH?
DOMINI- I KNOW THEY WENT TO SUSAN AND RANDY'S.
FOGLEMAN- HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT.
DOMINI- BECAUSE THEY TOLD ME. HE TOLD ME.
FOGLEMAN- WHO TOLD YOU? YOU SAID THEY TOLD YOU.
DOMINI- DAMION TOLD ME.
FOGLEMAN- NOT...OKAY. WHEN DID HE TELL YOU THAT?
DOMINI- THE DAY AFTER.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, DID HE TELL YOU WHERE ELSE HE WENT?
DOMINI- I JUST FIGURED AT HOME.
FOGLEMAN- HE DIDN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT WHAT HE DID THAT NIGHT?
DOMINI- UH UH.
FOGLEMAN- AND YOU DIDN'T ASK HIM? THE NEXT DAY, WHEN DID HE COME OVER THE NEXT DAY?
DOMINI- IT WAS IN THE MORNING.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT WAS HE WEARING WHEN HE CAME OVER?
DOMINI- I DON'T KNOW. A PAIR OF JEAN AND A SHIRT.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DON'T REMEMBER.
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- UM...HOW ABOUT DAMION'S...WHAT DID HE WEAR ON HIS FEET MOST OF THE TIME?
DOMINI- JUST COMBAT BOOTS.
FOGLEMAN- THOSE COMBAT BOOTS.
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- AND WERE THEY THOSE...HOW HIGH DID THEY COME UP ON THE LEG?
DOMINI- ON HIM. THEY COME UP ABOUT...
FOGLEMAN- ABOUT MID...
DOMINI- ABOUT MIDWAY, RIGHT LIKE THAT...
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WHAT ABOUT JASON'S BOOTS.
DOMINI- THEY'RE THE SAME KIND.
FOGLEMAN- THEY WERE.
DOMINI- YEAH. EXCEPT JASON'S IS SMALLER THAN HIS.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT KIND OF MOVIES DOES DAMION LIKE TO WATCH ON T.V.?
DOMINI- HORROR MOVIES.
FOGLEMAN- EVER WATCH ANY MILITARY TYPE MOVIES? YOU KNOW, WORLD WAR, VIETNAM WAR STUFF?
DOMINI- NO. (INAUDIBLE)
FOGLEMAN- WHAT COLOR ARE THE JEANS THAT YOU HAVE?
DOMINI- WHAT, THAT DAY?
FOGLEMAN- THE ONE'S WITH THE HOLES IN THEM.
DOMINI- GRAY.
FOGLEMAN- GREEN?
DOMINI- GRAY.
FOGLEMAN- GRAY.
GITCHELL- WHAT ABOUT OVER AT...WHEN THEY WERE MOWING THE YARD. WHAT JESSIE OVER THERE ALSO? ..............JESSIE WASN'T THERE. WHEN DID JESSIE COME AROUND?
DOMINI- JESSIE CAME AROUND AFTER THEM KIDS WAS KILLED.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? THAT HE CAME AROUND AFTER THE KIDS WERE MURDERED? WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
DOMINI- I MEAN, THE BOY SHOWS UP A WEEK AFTER THEM KIDS WERE KILLED.
FOGLEMAN- BUT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN, HE SHOWS UP/
DOMINI- OUT OF NOWHERE. I MEAN WE HADN'T SEEN JESSIE FOR MONTHS. I MEAN HE DID THAT WHEN DAMION AND ME GOT BACK TOGETHER, AND DAMION WAS LIVING WITH HIS STEPDAD, JACK. ALL OF THE SUDDEN, JESSIE COMES SHOWING UP, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN JESSIE SINCE THE YEAR BEFORE THAT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, NOW I'M GETTING A LITTLE CONFUSED. YOU SAID THAT, ALRIGHT...NOW...WHEN DAMION LIVED WITH HIS STEPFATHER, JACK....
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN-....THAT WAS WHEN HIS PARENTS WERE IN OREGON, IS THAT RIGHT?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. NOW, DID JESSIE COME AROUND THEN, WHEN DAMION LIVED WITH HIS STEPFATHER.
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- BECAUSE HE SAID THAT JESSIE SAID THAT HE HAD CAME FROM CALIFORNIA. HE JUST HAD MOVED BACK FROM CALIFORNIA.
FOGLEMAN- THAT JESSIE HAD.
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- THAT'S WHAT JESSIE SAID.
FOGLEMAN- AND, ....AND THEN JESSIE WAS AROUND QUITE A BIT THEN?
DOMINI- EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, LIKE ONCE OR TWICE, YEAH, I SAW HIM.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, AND WHEN HE WAS AROUND WHEN YOU SAW HIM, WHAT WOULD YA'LL BE DOING/
DOMINI- SITTING IN DAMION'S HOUSE.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, JUST SIT AROUND AND TALK. WHEN YOU WERE TAKLING ABOUT DAMION'S HOUSE, YOU TALKING ABOUT HIS...
DOMINI- HIS...
FOGLEMAN- JACK ECHOLS?
DOMINI- JACK ECHOL'S HOUSE.
FOGLEMAM- AND THEN YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT AFTER THE KIDS WERE KILLED HE CAME OUT OF NOWHERE. OKAY, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
DOMINI- I MEAN, WHEN ALL THE COPS WERE BRINGING EVERYBODY IN AND ALL, AND TALKING TO EVERYBODY....
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- IT WAS LIKE, TWO DAYS AFTER THE COPS WERE COMING AROUND, UM....JESSIE CAME OVER TO JASON'S HOUSE ONE DAY WHILE I WAS SITTING THERE, AND WANTING DAMION TO TAKE BLOCKBUSTER MOVIES TO BLOCKBUSTER.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- AND THEY WENT, AND I GUESS, TOOK BLOCKBUSTER MOVIES BACK, AND THEN WOULD UP OVER AT JESSIE'S HOUSE.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- BECAUSE HIS MOM HAD COME OVER TO COME GET DAMION...
FOGLEMAN- WHO'S MOM?
DOMINI- DAMION'S MOM.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- BECAUSE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT JASON'S HOUSE.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- AND IT MADE ME MAD. AND I CALLED OVER AT JESSIE'S AND SAID WHERE'S DAMION. AND HE GOES, DAMION'S ON HIS WAY BACK, MATTHEW JUST COME GET HIM. I SAID I KNOW, I SENT MATTHEW OVER THERE TO COME GET HIM, CAUSE HIS PARENTS ARE HERE. AND THEN I HUNG UP THE PHONE.
FOGLEMAN- AND ABOUT WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN AFTER THIS WEDNESDAY?
DOMINI- UM...IT WAS ABOUT LIKE THAT NEXT WEEK.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. ABOUT HOW MUCH...HOW MANY MORE TIMES DID JESSIE COME AROUND?
DOMINI- THAT WAS THE ONLY TIME.
FOGLEMAN- THAT WAS THE ONLY TIME THAT YOU'D SEEN HIM?
DOMINI- THAT WAS THE ONLY TIME I'D SEEN HIM.
FOGLEMAN- AROUND?
DOMINI- AROUND.
FOGLEMAN- HOW ABOUT BEFORE THE KIDS WERE MURDERED? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU'D SEEN HIM?
DOMINI- THAT ONE TIME OVER AT JACK'S.
FOGLEMAN- YOU'VE SEEN HIM TWICE?
DOMINI- THREE TIMES.
FOGLEMAN- WHEN WAS THE THIRD TIME?
DOMINI- THE FIRST TIME, WE HAD COME UP THE STREET, AND HE WAS MESSING AROUND WITH MATT, AND WE THOUGHT SOMEBODY WAS GETTING BEAT UP, BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL SCREAMING AND HOLLERING OUT THERE. AND WHEN WE WALKED OUT THERE WAS JESSIE.
FOGLEMAN- THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME YOU'D EVER SEEN HIM/
DOMINI- THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I'D EVER....NOT EVER IN MY LIFE, SINCE I'D BEEN TO SCHOOL THAT YEAR.
FOGLEMAN- YOU TALKING ABOUT LAST SCHOOL YEAR? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
DOMINI- UH HUH. THE SCHOOL YEAR BEFORE THAT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- 9TH GRADE.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- AND THE SECOND TIME I SEEN HIM, THEY HAD COME OVER THERE AND ME AND DAMION WAS TOGETHER, AND THEY HAD JUST COME KNOCKING ON THE DOOR WITH HIM AND B.J.
FOGLEMAN- WHO IS B.J.?
DOMINI- I DON'T KNOW, SOME FRIEND OF JESSIE'S. HE'S FAT AND UGLY.
FOGLEMAN- A WHAT?
DOMINI- SOME BIG, FAT KID THAT RUNS AROUND WITH JESSIE.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- AND THAT WAS THE LAST TIME I'D EVER SEEN HIM UNTIL THAT TIME THAT HE CAME OVER WITH....CAME OVER TO JASON'S TO GO GET DAMION.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, SO YOU'VE ONLY SEEN HIM 3 TIMES, SAY, IN THE LAST 2 YEARS.
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. DO YOU HAVE IDEA, OR HAS DAMION TOLD YOU WHY JESSIE WOULD BE SAYING THE THREE OF THEM DID THIS?
DOMINI- THE ONLY REASON I CAN FIGURE OUT WHY, IS BECAUSE EVERYONE KEEPS GOING AROUND SAYING THAT JESSIE'S DAD ABUSED HIM, AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I CAN FIGURE OUT WHY HE WOULD SAY THAT IS BECAUSE COPS WERE BADGERING HIM,.........
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI-(INAUDIBLE), OR MAYBE HE JUST SAID IT TO GET AWAY FROM HIS DAD.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WELL, HAS DAMION TOLD YOU WHY HE THINKS THAT JESSIE WOULD SAY THAT HE AND, THAT DAMION AND JASON WERE IN ON IT?
DOMINI- COPS BADGERED HIM.
FOGLEMAN- THAT'S WHAT DAMION SAYS?
DOMINI- OH, I KNOW THE COPS BADGER HIM. HE DOESN'T HAVE TO SAY IT TO ME.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
DOMINI- BUT THAT'S WHAT HE THINKS, ANYWAY.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. TELL ME HOW YOU KNOW THAT.
DOMINI- HOW DO I KNOW THE COPS BADGER HIM? CAUSE THEY'VE BADGERED ME.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. HOW DO THEY BADGER....
DOMINI- AND THEY'VE UPSET ME.
FOGLEMAN- HOW DID THEY DO THAT?
DOMINI- OH WELL, UM...OFFICER SUDBURY COMING UP AROUND AND GETTING ME AND HER IN A ROOM....
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI- AND SAYING THAT SO AND SO TOLD DAMION THIS AND HE TOLD YOU THIS AND....
FOGLEMAN- I'M RUNNING THE TAPE OVER. IT'S 3:23 P.M. SEPTEMBER 10TH, 1993 INTERVIEW OF DOMINI TEER. ALRIGHT, AND THAT WAS WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IS WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE POLICE BADGERING YOU. OKAY. HAS JASON TOLD YOU ANYTHING ABOUT WHY JESSIE WOULD BE SAYING HE DID ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
DOMINI- I HAVEN'T TALKED TO JASON EVER SINCE HE'S BEEN ARRESTED.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, HOW ABOUT BEFORE HE WAS ARRESTED?
DOMINI- ME AND JASON NEVER REALLY JUST SAT DOWN AND TALKED TO EACH OTHER FACE TO FACE.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, JUST A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS. NOW, DO YOU REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME THE POLICE TALKED TO DAMION?
DOMINI- UH HUH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. YOU WERE THERE?
DOMINI- NO. I WASN'T THERE.
FOGLEMAN- YOU WEREN'T THERE?
DOMINI- I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME THEY TALKED ABOUT HIM...TALKED TO HIM.
FOGLEMAN- WELL, MAYBE IT WAS THE SECOND TIME. IT WAS YOU AND DAMION AND JASON WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND THE OFFICERS PULLED UP AND HAD SOME QUESTIONS, SOME STANDARD QUESTIONS THAT THEY WERE ASKING.
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DON'T REMEMBER THAT?
DOMINI- NO. NO COPS EVER PULLED UP TO US ON THE STREET AND ASKED US QUESTIONS ALL TOGETHER.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DON'T REMEMBER THAT?
DOMINI- IT NEVER HAPPENED. I DON'T REMEMBER IT BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. YOU WEREN'T PRESENT WHEN THE POLICE WERE TALKING TO DAMION AND JASON AND JASON'S MOM COMES RUNNING OUT TO THEM...
DOMINI- THAT WAS AT JASON'S HOUSE.
FOGLEMAN- WELL, WERE YOU PRESENT?
DOMINI- YES.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. WELL TELL ME ABOUT THAT. TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED.
DOMINI- THE COPS WENT OVER TO MOM'S...MY HOUSE, TO ASK, I GUESS WHERE I WAS AT, AND SHE SENT THEM OVER TO JASON'S CAUSE WE WERE ALL THERE. AND THE COPS KNOCKED ON THE DOOR, AND I WAS SITTING ON THE COUCH AND THEY OPENED THE DOOR. AND THEY SAID I NEED TO TALK TO YOU, AND THEY POINTED TO ME...
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
DOMINI-...AND I WENT OUTSIDE. AND THEY SAT THERE AND THEY ASKED ME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE KIDS BEING KILLED. IF I KNEW WHERE ROBINHOOD WOODS WAS AT. WHAT WOULD I DO TO THE PERSON IF THEY CAUGHT 'EM.
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU CONSIDER THAT BADGERING?
DOMINI- YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S NOT REALLY NICE TO ASK A PREGNANT GIRL ABOUT DEAD KIDS.
GITCHELL- HOW MUCH PREGNANT WERE YOU? YOU WEREN'T EVEN SHOWING WERE YOU?
DOMINI- NO.
GITCHELL- OKAY.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. SO THE POLICE ASKED YOU THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS. AND WERE THEY ASKING THE SAME THING OF DAMION AND JASON?
DOMINI- I DON'T KNOW. THEY TOOK ME, ONE OF THE DETECTIVES TOOK ME TO THE TRUCK, AND TOOK A PICTURE OF ME, AND THEY...AND THE OTHER ONE WAS TALKING TO DAMION AND JASON.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND WHERE DID JASON'S MOM COME FROM?
DOMINI- SOME FRIEND'S HOUSE.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, SHE WASN'T AT WORK THAT DAY? OKAY. AND WHAT DID SHE SAY WHEN SHE CAME OVER THERE?
DOMINI- ALL I KNOW IS SHE STARTED SCREAMING. THE COPS...
FOGLEMAN- ALL YOU HEARD HER WAS...HER SCREAMING AT THE COPS...
DOMINI- SCREAMING. YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT HAD THE COPS DONE FOR HER TO SCREAM AT THEM.
DOMINI- TALKING TO JASON ABOUT THE MURDER, AND SHE WASN'T THERE, AND SHE JUST DIDN'T WANT THEM TALKING TO HIM AT ALL.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. ALRIGHT. CAN YOU THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU NEED TO TELL US?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- THAT YOU THINK WE OUGHT TO KNOW.
DOMINI- I'VE TOLD YOU ALREADY.
FOGLEMAN- CAN'T THNK OF ANYTHING ELSE?
DOMINI- NO.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. AND DAMION HASN'T TOLD YOU ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?
DOMINI- UH UH.
FOGLEMAN- YOU CONFIDE IN THE L.G. DON'T YOU?
DOMINI- THAT'S MY COUSIN.
FOGLEMAN- YOU TALK TO L.G. DON'T YOU?
DOMINI- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- WELL...
DOMINI- L.G.'S BEEN IN JAIL.
FOGLEMAN- WELL, THE DAY THAT HE WAS IN JAIL, HE WAS HERE, AND...WAS THAT YESTERDAY? AND YESTER....
DOMINI- YESTERDAY HE WAS DOWN AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TOO. YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT?
DOMINI- HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE ON HOUSE ARREST.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. ARE YOU SURE THERE'S NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TELL US?
DOMINI- UH UH. NOPE. I'VE TOLD YOU JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING I KNOW.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. WELL, I'LL JUST LET YOU AND L.G. WORK THAT OUT. UH, THAT CONCLUDES THIS INTERVIEW. IT'S 3:28 P.M. IT'S SEPTEMBER 10, 1993. CONCLUDES THE INTERVIEW OF DOMINI TEER.
