THIS IS DET. BRYN RIDGE OF THE WEST MEMPHIS POLICE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY AT 5369 NORTH STREET, BARTLETT, TENNESSEE WITH HOLLIE EDNA GEORGE W/F, UH WITH BILL DURHAM AND THE MOTHER OF HOLLIE LOIS GEORGE AND WE’RE CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING THE HOMICIDE CASE FILE 93-05-0666 OF THREE EIGHT YEAR OLD BOYS IN WEST MEMPHIS. HOLLIE, IF YOU WOULD JUST TELL ME YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOUR BIRTHDATE?
HOLLY: MY NAME IS HOLLIE EDNA GEORGE, MY ADDRESS IS 5369 NORTH STREET, MY BIRTHDAY IS UM UM __-__-1980
RIDGE: OKAY. YOUR 13 YEARS OLD
HOLLY: UM UM (YES)
RIDGE: AND YOU A STUDENT WHERE DO YOU GO TO SCHOOL?
HOLLY: ELMORE PARK MIDDLE
RIDGE: OKAY AND YOUR IN THE EIGTH GRADE? OKAY, UM, CALLING YOU MEMORY BACK TILL THE 5TH OF MAY THIS YEAR OKAY, THE DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME YOU WERE INVOLVED IN SOMEPHONE CALLS WITH DAMIEN ECHOLS IS THAT CORRECT?
HOLLY: YES
RIDGE: OKAY, ABOUT WHAT TIME THAT DAY WERE YOU ON THE PHONE THE FIRST TIME WITH DAMIEN?
HOLLY: ABOUT 3:30
RIDGE: ABOUT 3:30, THAT’S AFTER YOU HAD GOTTEN OUT OF SCHOOL? OKAY, WHO WAS ON THE PHONE WITH YOU?
HOLLY: JENNIFER BEARDEN AND DAMIEN
RIDGE: SO IT WAS A THREE WAY PHONE
HOLLY: UM UM (YES)
RIDGE: OKAY, DID YOU CALL ANYBODY ELSE THAT DAY?
HOLLY: THAT DAY ANYBODY?
RIDGE: YEA
HOLLY: YEA, MY FRIENDS
RIDGE: OKAY, DID YOU CALL ANYBODY IN WEST MEMPHIS THAT DAY?
HOLLY: I DON’T THINK SO
RIDGE: OKAY
HOLLY: BESIDE DAMIEN AND I CALLED JASON (ILLEGIBLE) ANSWERED OR ANYTHING
RIDGE: OKAY, WHAT TIME DID YOU CALL JASON
HOLLY: OH, I DON’T KNOW, IT WAS AFTER I TALKED TO DAMIEN OR SO
RIDGE: SO SOMETIME AFTER 3:30 YOU TRIED TO CALL JASON AND COULDN’R GET AN ANSWER?
HOLLY: (INAUDIBLE)
RIDGE: OKAY, AT 3:30 WHEN YOU CALLED FOR DAMIEN WAS HE THERE?
HOLLY: UM UM (YES)
RIDGE: DID HE ANSWER THE PHONE OR DID SOMEONE ELSE PHONE AND HE COME TO THE PHONE?
HOLLY: I THINK HE ANSWERED THE PHONE
RIDGE: OKAY, HOW LONG HAVE YOU KNOWN DAMIEN? BEFORE THE PHONE CALL?
HOLLY: BEFORE THAT PHONE CALL. ABOUT A WEEK
RIDGE: ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE THAT, OKAY, AND WHERE DID YOU MEET HIM?
HOLLY: SKATING RINK
RIDGE: OKAY, IS THERE ANYTHING USUAL ABOUT DAMIEN OR IS HE JUST A TYPICAL BOY TO OR, OKAY, JUST TYPICAL
HOLLY: YEA
RIDGE: ALRIGHT, JASON DID YOU KNOW HIM?
HOLLY: YEA
RIDGE: HOW LONG HAD YOU KNOWN JASON?
HOLLY: SAME ABOUT OF TIME I KNEW DAMIEN BECAUSE WE MEET THEM TOGETHER
RIDGE: SINCE THAT TIME HAVE YOU FOUND OUT ANYBODY ELSE THAT TALKED TO DAMIEN ON THE TELEPHONE THAT DAY?
HOLLY: NO, BESIDES JENNIFER BEARDEN AND
RIDGE: SHE HAD TOLD YOU SHE CALLED HIM AFTER
HOLLY: AFTER I HAD TALKED TO HIM AND HER EARLIER
RIDGE: OK DO YOU KNOW WHEN SHE CALLED HIM?
HOLLY: LIKE RIGHT AFTER I GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH HER AND THEY TALKED FOR A WHILE AND THEN THEY HANG UP (ILLEGIBLE) JENNIFER HAD TO GET OFF THE PHONE AND THEN SHE CALLED BACK LIKE AT 9 O’CLOCK OR SO
RIDGE: SHE CALLED BACK AT ABOUT 9?
HOLLY: (INAUDIBLE)
RIDGE: DID SHE TELL YOU WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT?
HOLLY: UN UN (NO)
RIDGE: OKAY, DID SHE SAY THAT SHE HAD TRIED TO CALL HIM THAT EVENING AND COULDN’T GET HIM?
HOLLY: SHE SAID SHE TRIED ONCE COULDN’T GET A HOLD OF HIM BECAUSE NOBODY ANSWERED
RIDGE: ABOUT WHAT TIME WAS THAT DO YOU KNOW?
HOLLY: UN UN (NO) I FORGOT
RIDGE: BUT SHE TOLD YOU ABOUT IT OKAY, UM, DO YOU REMEMBER TALKING WITH HEATHER CLIETT THAT DAY?
HOLLY: THAT DAY NO
RIDGE: YOU DIDN’T TALK WITH HER AT ALL?
HOLLY: (INAUDIBLE)
RIDGE: DO YOU KNOW WHAT HEATHER’S PHONE NUMBER IS?
HOLLY: YEA, I THINK IT’S UPSTAIRS IN MY BEDROOM BUT I DON’T KNOW IT
RIDGE: YOU DO HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN SOMEEWHERE? WHERE DID YOU MEET HEATHER?
HOLLY: SKATING RINK
RIDGE: OKAY...OKAY DO YOU DAMIEN’S PHONE NUMBER?
HOLLY: IT’S UPSTAIRS
RIDGE: YOU DON’T KNOW IT IN MEMORY?
HOLLY: UN UN (NO)
RIDGE: OKAY HOW ABOUT JASON’S?
HOLLY: (INAUDIBLE) NO I HAD IT BUT I DON’T HAVE IT NO MORE
RIDGE: OKAY, DO ARE, DO YOU NORMALLY WRITE YOUR PHONE NUMBERS DOWN THAT, PEOPLE YOU CALL OR DO YOU JUST HAVE SOME NUMBERS YOU JUST KNOW IN YOUR HEAD?
HOLLY: I HAVE SOME NUMBERS I KNEW IN MY HEAD, BUT THEIR ALL WRITTEN DOWN
RIDGE: OKAY, DID YOU EVER KNOW THEIR NUMBERS?
HOLLY: YEAH, I KNEW, I KNEW THEM AND THAT’S WHY I DIDN’T WRITE JASON’S DOWN, BECAUSE I KNEW IT
RIDGE: YEA
HOLLY: AND THEN I WENT TO WRITE IT DOWN AND I DIDN’T KNOW IT, BUT I KNEW DAMIEN’S SO I WROTE IT DOWN
RIDGE: OKAY, SO YoU TRIED TO CALL JASON THAT DAY AND YOU COULDN’T ANSWER AND THAT WAS SHORTLY AFTER YOU HAD TALKED TO DAMIEN ABOUT 3:30, AND YOU WERE ONLY ON THE PHONE WITH DAMIEN ABOUT 5 MINUTES THAT DAY, IS THAT RIGHT?
HOLLY: UM UM (YES)
RIDGE: UH, WHEN’S THE NEXT TIME AFTER THE PHONE CALLS THAT YOU SAW DAMIEN AGAIN?
HOLLY: LATE THAT FRIDAY NIGHT
RIDGE: AND YOU WERE WHERE?
HOLLY: SKATING RINK
RIDGE: OKAY, WAS THERE ANYTHING MENTIONED ABOUT THE MURDERS WHEN YOU WERE AROUND?
HOLLY: NO
RIDGE: OKAY, UH, WHERE, WHAT IS JENNIFER’S REASON’S FOR WANTING TO CALL AND TALK WITH DAMIEN?
HOLLY: THEY’RE JUST FRIENDS
RIDGE: JUST FRIENDS, WERE THEY TRYING TO GO OUT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
HOLLY: NO
RIDGE: GETTING CLOSE, OKAY, DO YOU KNOW IF DAMIEN HAS ANY GIRL FRIENDS OR NOT?
HOLLY: OTHER THAN DOMINI, NO
RIDGE: YOU KNEW ABOUT DOMINI?
HOLLY: I DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT HER UNTIL LIKE EVERBODY SAID SHE WAS PREGNANT WITH HIS CHILD AND STUFF
RIDGE: OKAY
HOLLY: AND STUFF
RIDGE: DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HER NOW?
HOLLY: NO
RIDGE: JUST THAT SHE’S SUPPOSE TO BE PREGNANT WITH HIS CHILD?
HOLLY: UM UM (YES) I MEAN I KNOW WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE
RIDGE: HAVE YOU SEEN HER OR
HOLLY: YEAH, I’VE SEEN HER I SAW HER IN LAKESHORE ONE DAY
RIDGE: OKAY, WHEN WERE YOU IN LAKESHORE?
HOLLY: AFTER THE KIDS WERE KILLED AND DAMIEN (INAUDIBLE)
RIDGE: HAVE YOU GOT SOME FRIENDS OVER THERE OR WHAT WAS YOUR REASONS FOR BEING THERE?
HOLLY: BECAUSE JENNIFER’S MOM, ONE OF THEIR PATIENT’S LIVES OVER THERE AND SHE WAS BRINGING HER MEDICINE, AND THEY WERE FISHING SO JENNIFER AND I WENT WALKING AND SO DAMIEN AND THEM WERE THERE SO WE STARTED HANGIN OUT WITH THEM
RIDGE: OH OKAY, IS WHAT IS JENNIFER’S MOM A NURSE
HOLLY: SHE WORKS FOR DR. (INAUDIBLE) DERMATOLOGIST
RIDGE: OKAY, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT, ANY KIND OF CONVERSATIONS YOU OVER HEARD OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THESE HOMICIDES OR ANYTHING?
HOLLY: NO
RIDGE: OKAY YOU SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO (ILLEGIBLE) TALKED WITH TERRY WORK(SP) AND HE TOLD YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THEY ARE GOING TO BE CONVICTED AND THEIR GOING TO GO TO JAIL
HOLLY: OH FOR ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AND THEN THEY ARE GOING TO COME OUT
RIDGE: DID HE KNOW A REASON WHY HE WAS GOING TO BE IN JAIL FOR THAT LONG, I MEAN DID HE KNOW ANYTHING SPECIFIC OR WAS HE JUST TALKING?
HOLLY: WILL, I DON’T KNOW IF HE KNEW ANYTHING SPECIFIC BUT HE WAS SAYING THAT HIS UNCLE WORKS AT THE POLICE STATION AND SAID THAT THEIR GOING TO GET OUT IN A FEW WEEKS AND JASON WILL BE, WON’T PROBABLY WON’T EVEN BE THERE BECAUSE THEIR THINKING HE DIDN’T DO IT, BUT DAMIEN GOING TO STAY UP FOR 6 MONTHS, I MEAN 6 YEARS
RIDGE: YEA, YOU MENTIONED JESSIE, DO YOU KNOW JESSIE?
HOLLY: YEAH, I DID, BUT I MEAN HE WAS NEVER REALLY ONE OF MY FRIENDS
RIDGE: OKAY, WHERE DID YOU SEE HIM?
HOLLY: SKATING RINK
RIDGE: THAT’S THE COMMON DENOMINATOR THAT’S WHERE EVERYBODY MEETS
HOLLY: UM UM (YES)
RIDGE: OKAY, UH, DID ANY OF THEM, JESSIE OR JASON OR DAMIEN EVER GET INTO AN ARGUMENT WITH ANYBODY WHEN YOU WERE AROUND?
HOLLY: WHILE I WAS AROUND, NO
RIDGE: OK, AND WHAT WERE THEY JUST HAD THEIR OWN LITTLE GROUP OVER HERE AND JESSIE WAS IN ANOTHER GROUP OR WHAT WAS IT?
HOLLY: THEY HUNG OUT WITH THE SAME PEOPLE BUT THEY JUST NEVER REALLY LIKED JESSIE
RIDGE: OKAY, ALRIGHT, WAS THERE ANY KIND OF ARGUMENT GOING ON OR WAS IT JUST LIKE THEY WAS (ILLEGIBLE) PART OF THE SAME GROUP
HOLLY: I DON’T THINK THEY WERE PART OF THE SAME GROUP
RIDGE: OKAY, ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF?
HOLLY: UM UM ( NO)
RIDGE: ALRIGHT, I’M GOING TO CONCLUDE THE INTERVIEW THE TIME IS 4:38 P.M.
