L.G. HOLLINGSWORTH SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND THE WHOLE TRUTH IN THE STATEMENT YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE ME ON THIS 2ND DAY OF SEPTEMBER 1993.
HOLLINGSWORTH- YES.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. I'M JOHN FOGLEMAN, DEPUTY PROSECUTING ATTORNEY, CRITTENDEN COUNTY, ARKANSAS. IT IS NOW 4:00 P.M. WE'RE INTERVIEWING L.G. HOLLINGSWORTH PURSUANT TO PROSECUTING ATTORNEY SUBPOENA. YOU ARE L.G. HOLLINGSWORTH?
HOLLINGSWORTH- YES.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, WHERE DO YOU LIVE L.G.?
L.G.- I WAS LIVING AT MCAULEY CIRCLE, 714 MCAULEY CIRCLE.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT WHERE DO YOU LIVE NOW?
L.G.- I'M STAYING WITH RICHARD
FOGLEMAN- RICHARD?
L.G.- SIMPSON.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. AND, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO LIVE TOMORROW?
L.G.- TOMORROW I'M GOING TO RENT A TRAILER.
FOGLEMAN- YOU'RE GOING TO RENT A TRAILER.
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT.
L.G.- I'M SUPPOSED TO CHECK IN ON IT. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE READY.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. WHAT KIND OF WORK DO YOU DO?
L.G.- I WORK AT MORGAN (INAUDIBLE) IN MEMPHIS.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT WHAT KIND OF CONSTRUCTION WORK DO YOU DO?
L.G.- I'M A PLUMBER APPRENTICE.
FOGLEMAN- DO WELDING?
L.G.- NO, I JUST MESS WITH PLUMBING.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. WHY ARE YOUR EYES ALL BLOODSHOT?
L.G.- BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING ALL DAY IN THE SUN.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
L.G.- AND THE SAND.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. SO, YOU'RE SOBER, AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DRINKING ANYTHING OR DOING ANY DRUGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
L.G.- NO SIR. I JUST GOT OFF WORK.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. THE ONLY REASON I ASKED THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT'S ON THE BALL, HERE. ALRIGHT, NOW, BACK IN MAY, YOU LIVED ON MCAULEY CIRCLE.
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- WHO'D YOU LIVE WITH THEN?
L.G.- MY MOM AND DAD.
FOGLEMAN- AND WHAT ARE THEIR NAMES?
L.G.- L.G. AND LINDA HOLLINGSWORTH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. NOW, I WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO MAY THE 5TH, THIS IS THAT WEDNESDAY, THE FIRST WEDNESDAY IN MAY.
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- SO YOU KNOW THE POLICE HAVE QUESTIONED YOU ABOUT IS BEFORE.
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, AND I BELIEVE YOU STARTED OUT BY YOUR AUNT AND MARLINE TOOK YOU JOB HUNTING./
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, TELL ME ABOUT THAT DAY, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY.
L.G.- WELL, WE WENT, UH, SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO COME OVER TO MY HOUSE, AND SHE NEVER DID, SO I BORROWED RICHARD'S CAR, AND I WENT OVER TO HER HOUSE.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
L.G.- OKAY, AND I COME OVER THERE TOO EARLY, SO I TOOK HER KIDS TO SCHOOL.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
L.G.- AND THEN, I LEFT THERE, NO THAT WAS THE DAY AFTER, I'M SORRY. SHE COME OVER TO THE HOUSE, AND GOT ME, AND WE WENT OVER THERE. SHE TOOK THE KIDS TO SCHOOL. AND THEN WE WENT JOB HUNTING. DURING UM...
FOGLEMAN- DID YOU GET A JOB?
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- WHERE DID YOU GET A JOB?
L.G.- AT BIG STAR.
FOGLEMAN- WHICH ONE?
L.G.- THE BIG BIG STAR. BY THE HIGH SCHOOL.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, ON WEST BROADWAY.
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, AFTER YOU LEFT THERE WHAT DID YOU DO?
L.G.- UM, I TOLD THEM TO GO AHEAD, WE GOT TIRED AND WENT TO SONIC, AND THEN WE GOT TIRED, SO WE WAS GOING TO GO HOME.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
L.G.- AND ON THE WAY, SHE TOOK ME TO MY HOUSE AND THERE WASN'T NOBODY THERE.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
L.G.- SO, I TOLD HER TO TAKE ME TO MY MOM'S WORK.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
L.G.- SO ON THE WAY THERE, SHE HAD A WRECK, AND WE STAYED THERE AT THE WRECK, AND AFTER WE LEFT THE WRECK, WE WENT TO HER INSURANCE COMPANY.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
L.G.- AND THEN I WENT OVER TO HER HOUSE. NO, I DIDN'T. I WENT TO MY MOM'S WORK AND GOT THE KEY, AND THEN I WENT HOME.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. MCAULEY?
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- AND AFTER YOU WENT HOME , WHAT DID YOU DO/
L.G.- WELL, I STAYED THERE UNTIL MY MOM GOT THERE.
FOGLEMAN- AND WHEN WAS THAT?
L.G.- ABOUT (INAUDIBLE) I DON'T REMEMBER.
FOGLEMAN- WELL, ABOUT WHAT TIME?
L.G.- 8:30
FOGLEMAN- 8:30 THAT NIGHT?
L.G.- YES, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW, 7:30 SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. DIDN'T YOU STAY AT YOUR AUNT'S HOUSE FOR SOMETIME?
L.G.- YES, I STAYED THERE UNTIL, UM, I THINK WAS 5:00.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, AND UM DID YOU SEE JASON BALDWIN OR DAMION, OR JESSIE MISSKELLEY?
L.G.- I SEEM DAMION.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, WHERE DID YOU SEE DAMION?
L.G.- WELL I WENT OVER TO DOMINI'S AND HE WAS THERE. AND I SEEN HIM BEFORE I LEFT...
FOGLEMAN- WAIT, YOU SAID YOU WENT OVER TO DOMINI'S?
L.G.- YES.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, WHEN DID YOU GO OVER TO DOMINI'S?
L.G.- BEFORE I LEFT MY AUNT'S.
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU KNOW ABOUT WHAT TIME IT WAS?
L.G.- UM....
FOGLEMAN- HOW LONG BEFORE YOU LEFT YOUR AUNT'S?
L.G.- IT WAS ABOUT 3 HOURS BEFORE I LEFT MY AUNT'S.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, SO THAT AFTERNOON, EARLY THAT AFTERNOON.
L.G.- YEAH, I'D SAY ABOUT 1:00.
FOGLEMAN- AND WHO WAS THERE AT THAT HOUSE?
L.G.- IT WAS DOMINI'S MOM, DAMION AND DOMINI.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. AND HOW LONG DID YOU STAY THERE?
L.G.- UH, I DON'T KNOW, ABOUT 20 MINUTES.
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU REMEMBER HOW DAMION WAS DRESSED.
L.G.- YES, HE HAD SOME BLACK SHOES ON. NO IT WAS BLACK BOOTS ON, BLACK PANTS, AND A BLACK SHIRT.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, AND TELL ME AGAIN HOW LONG YOU STAYED THERE?
L.G.- ABOUT 20 MINUTES.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. AND THEN WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOU LEFT.
L.G.- I WENT OVER TO MY AUNTS.
FOGLEMAN- DID YOU SEE THEM AGAIN AT ANY TIME?
L.G.- YES. I WAS, I SAID I WAS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WALK HOME. SO I WAS GOING OVER TO MY OLD AUNT'S TO SEE IF SHE WAS GOING TO GIVE ME A RIDE.
FOGLEMAN- WHO'S THAT?
L.G.- THAT'S PAM.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY
L.G.- AND THEN I SEEN DAMION RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER, AND...
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WAS HE BY HIMSELF?
L.G.- YES. UH WELL, I SEEN HIM BEFORE THAT, I WAS WALKING OVER TO MY AUNT'S, AND HIM AND DOMINI WAS OUT THERE ARGUING.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
L.G.- AND DOMINI WENT HER WAY, AND HE WAS STANDING ON THE OTHER STREET.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
L.G.- LIKE HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
L.G.- AND THEN I LEFT THERE AND WENT TO MY AUNT'S TO TALK TO HER.
FOGLEMAN- ABOUT WHAT TIME WAS THAT WHEN YOU SAW THEM ARGUING/
L.G.- I'D SAY ABOUT 4:30.
FOGLEMAN- ABOUT 4;30.
L.G.- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
L.G.- ANYWAY, THEN MY AUNT SAID THAT SHE COULDN'T GIVE ME A RIDE, SO I WALKED OUTSIDE. AND I SEEN DAMION STANDING AT THE CORNER, AND I ASKED HIM WHERE HE FIXIN TO GO, AND HE SAID MY MOM'S COMING TO GET ME. AND THIS WAS AT 5 MINUTES TIL 5:00.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY.
L.G.- AND SO,
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, ARE YOU SURE IT WAS THAT DAY?
L.G.- YES.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD.
L.G.- ANYWAY, THEN MY AUNT TOOK ME HOME.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WAS DAMION, WHEN YOU SAW HIM, WAS HE OUT THERE STANDING BY HIMSELF?
L.G.- YES.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. NOW WHAT STREET WAS THIS ON.
L.G.- UM, I DON'T KNOW THE STREET NAMES.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, DO YOU KNOW WHERE JASON BALDWIN LIVES.
L.G.- YES, IT WAS RIGHT, RIGHT THERE ON THAT CORNER.
FOGLEMAN- BY WHERE JASON LIVES?
L.G.- YES.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. NOW IS THAT, NOW GET ME STRAIGHT HERE, BECAUSE I'M NOT REAL FAMILIAR WITH IT OUT THERE. IS JASON BALDWIN'S TRAILER KIND OF AROUND THE CORNER FROM DONINI'S?
L.G.- YES, YOU GO UP THE STREET, AND YOU TURN THE CORNER, AND THERE IT IS.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, AND HE WAS ON THIS CORNER. IS THAT THE CORNER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
L.G.- NO SEE, THE STREET GOES LIKE THIS, AND THERE'S A STREET RIGHT HERE. HE WAS ON THIS CORNER.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. IF HE WAS STANDING ON THE CORNER, WAS IT THE INTERSECTION OF THE STREET WHERE DOMINI LIVES AND THE STREET WHERE JASON LIVES?
L.G.- YES.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, THEN WHAT HAPPENED?
L.G.- MY AUNT COME AROUND THE CORNER, AND SHE SAID, WELL COME ON, AND I SAID ALRIGHT. SO I GOT IN THE CAR AND SHE TOOK ME HOME.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WHICH AUNT WAS THAT?
L.G.- AUNT MARLINE.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, THEN WHAT HAPPENED. WHEN YOU GOT HOME, WHO WAS THERE?
L.G.- MY MOM.
FOGLEMAN- WHO ELSE?
L.G.- ONE OF HERE FRIENDS.
FOGLEMAN- MAN OR WOMAN?
L.G.- IT WAS A WOMAN.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. WHAT HAPPENED THEN?
L.G.- UM, THEY SAID THEY WERE FIXIN TO GO TO ANOTHER FRIEND'S HOUSE. AND AFTER THAT....
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU REMEMBER WHO THE FRIEND WAS?
L.G.- NO, ALL I KNOW IS SHE HAD BROWN HAIR.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, NO I MEAN THE FRIEND'S HOUSE.
L.G.- YEAH, THAT WAS MONA ROBERTSON.
FOGLEMAN- LET ME STOP HERE AND ASK YOU, HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO REMEMBER ALL THIS SO WELL? YOU JUST....
L.G.- WELL EVERYTIME YOU SAY ANOTHER WORD, IT BECOMES CLEAR.
FOGLEMAN- BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR, HOW DO YOU REMEMBER THAT THIS HAPPENED ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY?
L.G.- YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WEDNESDAY. I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
FOGLEMAN- WELL, I KNOW BUT IT WAS....
L.G.- A LONG TIME AGO.
FOGLEMAN- YES, IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. HOW DO YOU REMEMBER THAT SO WELL? IS THERE ANYTHING IMPARTICULAR ABOUT THAT DAY THAT MAKES IT STAND OUT?
L.G.- NO, IT WAS JUST A DAY. SEE I'VE BEEN DONE WITH THIS SO MANY TIMES.
FOGLEMAN- WITH THE POLICE.
L.G.- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- HAVE YOU BEEN OVER IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE?
L.G.- NO, JUST WITH THE POLICE.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, HAS ANYBODY ELSE QUESTIONED YOU ABOUT IT?
L.G.- NO.
FOGLEMAN- DID THE GUY WITH THE BEARD TALK TO YOU?
- THAT INVESTIGATOR?
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU REMEMBER THE GUY WITH THE BEARD, THAT DRESSES REAL FANCY.
L.G.- A YOUNG GUY.
FOGLEMAN- FAIRLY, HE'S OLDER THAN I AM.
L.G.- ABOUT 30.
FOGLEMAN- MAYBE.
L.G.- IF HE'S AN INVESTIGATOR, THAT'S WHO I TALKED TO.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT DID HE LOOK LIKE?
L.G.- KIND OF SHORT BLACK HAIR, UM...
FOGLEMAN- THIN OR HEAVY?
L.G.- KIND OF IN BETWEEN.
FOGLEMAN- DID HE HAVE ANY HAIR ON HIS FACE/
L.G.- MUSTACHE.
FOGLEMAN- MUSTACHE? OKAY. YOUR MOM AND HER FRIEND LEFT. ALRIGHT, THEN WHAT HAPPENED?
L.G.- WELL, I STAYED THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, THEN I CALLED MY BUDDY RICHARD. RICHARD SIMPSON.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. THEN WHAT HAPPENED/
L.G.- THEN I WENT OVER TO HIS HOUSE.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, WHAT DID YOU DO OVER AT RICHARD'S HOUSE?
L.G.- WE SAT THERE FOR AWHILE, AND UH, I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER. I THINK HE WAS TRIPPING OUT OR SOMETHING.
FOGLEMAN- THEN WHAT HAPPENED?
L.G.- THEN, UH, I WENT OVER TO GO TO ANOTHER FRIEND'S HOUSE. AND, HE WASN'T HOME, SO I STOPPED AT MY AUNT'S WORK. ANYWAY, I LEFT RICHARD'S AND HE DROPPED ME OFF HOME.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT.
L.G.- I BELIEVE, I'M NOT FOR SURE. I GET THE DAYS MIXED UP, BUT I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. LET'S TALK ABOUT, NOW BEFORE YOU SAID THAT YOU WENT TO DIXIE'S PLACE OF WORK. THAT'S A LAUNDYMAT.
L.G.- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, WHICH DAY ARE YOU SAYING THAT IS.
L.G.- UH...
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, BEFORE, YOU SAID IT WAS THAT WEDNESDAY. NOW, HOW DID YOU GET THERE?
L.G.- RICHARD. I HAD HIS CAR, RICHARD'S CAR.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, NOW....
L.G.- RICHARD WAS IN THE CAR ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND I WAS DRIVING.
FOGLEMAN- NOW, L.G., THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START GETTING INTO SOME PROBLEMS. UM, RICHARD SAYS, THAT HE SAW YOU THAT NIGHT AND IT WAS JUST FOR A FEW MINUTES, AND THAT HE DIDN'T GO WITH YOU TO ANY LAUNDRYMAT.
L.G.- YEAH, HE DID.
FOGLEMAN- AND YOUR AUNT SAYS THAT SHE KNOWS RICHARD'S CAR, AND THE CAR YOU CAME IN WASN'T RICHARDS.
L.G.- YES IT WAS.
FOGLEMAN- WHY DID YOUR AUNT SAY THAT IT WASN'T AND RICHARD SAID THAT IT WASN'T?
L.G.- I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE NO IDEA.
FOGLEMAN- YOU'RE GOING TO STICK WITH THAT?
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- WHO WAS IT L.G.?
L.G.- IT WAS RICHARD.
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU KNOW WHY HE WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT WAS HIM?
L.G.- I HAVE NO IDEA.
FOGLEMAN- WHY WOULD HE HAVE ANY MOTIVATION NOT TO SAY YES, I WAS WITH HIM, I TOOK HIM UP THERE?
L.G.- I GUESS YOU'LL HAVE TO ASK HIM, BECAUSE ALL I KNOW IS THAT WE WAS TOGETHER, AND HE KNEW IT AND I KNEW IT. AND WE'RE STILL FRIENDS, AND HE DIDN'T SAY NOTHING ABOUT IT.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT ABOUT YOU'RE AUNT?
L.G.- I COULDN'T TELL YOU NOTHING ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHY SHE SAID THAT.
FOGLEMAN- YOU'RE DIGGING A HOLE L.G.
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L.G.- THAT'S THE TRUTH, MAN.
FOGLEMAN- DID YOU SEE DAMION OR JASON ANYMORE THAT NIGHT?
L.G.- NO, I DID NOT.
FOGLEMAN- JESSIE.
L.G.- NOPE.
FOGLEMAN- AND YOU'RE SURE ABOUT THAT?
L.G.- YES SIR, CAUSE I LEFT THERE AND I WENT HOME.
FOGLEMAN- AND WHICH HOME WAS THAT, ON MCAULEY?
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- AND WHAT DID YOU DO THERE AT THE LAUNDRYMAT?
L.G.- I WALKED IN AND ASKED FOR DOMINI'S NUMBER.
FOGLEMAN- WHY?
L.G.- BECAUSE I FORGOT HER NUMBER.
FOGLEMAN- WHY WOULD YOUR AUNT HAVE DOMINI'S NUMBER?
L.G.- BECAUSE DOMINI USED TO LIVE WITH THEM. DOMINI'S MOM IS HER SISTER.
FOGLEMAN- SO YOU ALL ARE RELATED?
L.G.- YES.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WHAT HAPPENED THE NEXT NIGHT? THE NEXT DAY?
L.G.- MY AUNT CAME OVER TO GET ME, NO .... MY AUNT CAME OVER AND GOT ME AND TOOK ME TO BIG STAR, AND I WENT TO WORK.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT TIME?
L.G.- AT NINE.
FOGLEMAN- DID YOU SEE ANYBODY AT THE LAUNDRYMAT THAT YOU KNEW?
L.G.- YES, UM SONYA.
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU KNOW HER LAST NAME.
L.G.- NO.
FOGLEMAN- DOES SHE STILL WORK AT WAL-MART?
L.G.- UH, I THINK SO.
FOGLEMAN- HER NAME IS SONYA?
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT SHE SAW WHO YOU WERE WITH?
L.G.- I DON'T KNOW.
FOGLEMAN- DID ANYBODY ELSE SEE YOU AND RICHARD THERE?
L.G.- I DON'T THINK SO.
FOGLEMAN- L.G., I'M WANTING TO BELIEVE YOU, BUT, PUT YOURSELF IN MY POSITION. ALRIGHT, I'VE GOT YOUR,.. IS IT YOUR AUNT DIXIE, .....
L.G.- YES.
FOGLEMAN- I'VE GOT HER SAYING THAT YOU CAME IN THERE, BUT WEREN'T WITH RICHARD. YOU WEREN'T IN HIS CAR, IT WAS A DIFFERENT CAR. AND THEN I'VE GOT RICHARD SAYING, NO, IT WASN'T ME THAT HE WAS WITH. NOW WHAT WOULD YOU BELIEVE IF YOU WERE ME?
L.G.- WELL, I DON'T KNOW, I HAVE NO IDEA. I DON'T KNOW WHY SOMEBODY WOULD SAY THAT.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT ABOUT LASLOW?
L.G.- WHO?
FOGLEMAN- LASLOW. LARRY...
L.G.- IS THAT THAT GUY THAT LIVES WITH RICHARD?
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
L.G.- YEAH.
FOGLEMAN- WAS HE WITH YA'LL TOO?
L.G.- NO, HE WAS NOT. HE WAS GONE WITH SOMEBODY THAT RICHARD WORKS WITH. THEY WENT OUT TO EAT OR SOMETHING.
FOGLEMAN- WAS LASLOW THERE WHEN YOU CAME OVER THERE?
L.G.- YES, HE WAS.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT. LASLOW SAYS HE DOESN'T REMEMBER YOU BEING OVER THERE.
L.G.- I DON'T KNOW, ALL I KNOW HE WAS DRINKING WHEN I GOT THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHY HE WOULD SAY THAT.
FOGLEMAN- L.G.
L.G.- YES.
FOGLEMAN- WERE YOU AROUND THE WOODS THAT NIGHT?
L.G.- NO SIR I WAS NOT.
FOGLEMAN- DO YOU KNOW AARON?
L.G.- AARON? DO YOU KNOW A LAST NAME?
FOGLEMAN- LITTLE BOY.
L.G.- NO, I DON'T KNOW HIM. I KNOW AN AARON, BUT HE'S NOT A LITTLE BOY.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT NOW, RICHARD SAYS THAT HE WAS WITH YOU THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH THE WEEKEND, BUT NOT WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
L.G.- WEDNESDAY NIGHT, I WENT HOME.
FOGLEMAN- PARDON?
L.G.- WEDNESDAY NIGHT, I WENT HOME.
FOGLEMAN- YOU JUST TOLD US YOU WENT UP TO THE LAUNDRYMAT.
L.G.- I KNOW, AFTER I WENT TO THE LAUNDRYMAT, I WENT HOME.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, BUT RICHARD SAYS YOU WEREN'T.
L.G.- YES I AM. I CAN'T HELP THAT. I WAS THERE, AND I KNOW I WAS THERE.
FOGLEMAN- WHO IS TREY BOALS?
L.G.- WHO?
FOGLEMAN- TREY BOALS.
L.G.- I DON'T KNOW.
FOGLEMAN- YOU DON'T KNOW A TREY BOALS?
L.G.- UH UH.
FOGLEMAN- HOW LONG HAVE YOU KNOWN DAMION?
L.G.- MOST OF THE YEAR.
FOGLEMAN- HOW DID YOU GET TO KNOW HIM?
L.G.- THROUGH DOMINI.
FOGLEMAN- DID YA'LL EVER SPEND ANY TIME TOGETHER/
L.G.- WHO, ME AND DAMION?
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH.
L.G.- YEAH, ME AND DAMION AND DOMINI AND HER BOYFRIEND.
FOGLEMAN- UM...WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU HAD BEEN IN ROBINHOOD?
L.G.- UH... ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO I GUESS. I'M TELLING THE TRUTH.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY, WE'RE GOING OFF RECORD FOR A MINUTE, IT'S 4:21.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY WE'RE BACK ON RECORD, IT'S 4:28 P.M., L.G., WHAT'S YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH RICHARD SIMPSON?
L.G.- I'M A FRIEND OF HIS.
FOGLEMAN- HOW OLD IS HE?
L.G.- I DON'T KNOW. ABOUT 50 OR 40 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
FOGLEMAN- AND YA'LL ARE JUST GOOD FRIENDS?
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, NOW TELL ME ABOUT THE BOX IN YOUR CAR.
L.G.- NO, IT'S RICHARD'S CAR.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, TELL ME ABOUT THE BOX.
L.G.- IT'S A WHITE BOX THAT'S IN THE BACK IN THE FLOORBOARD, AND I TOOK MY AUNT'S KIDS TO SCHOOL. AND I MOVED THE BOX OVER, AND I MOVED THE BOX OVER, AND I SAID DON'T STEP ON THE BOX. I TOOK THEM TO SCHOOL, AND THE NEXT THING I KNOW (INAUDIBLE) IS THERE WAS A WHITE BOX IN THE CAR, AND (INAUDIBLE) THE ONLY THING THAT WAS IN THAT WAS TEST PAPERS THAT GOES TO THAT SCHOOL OUT THERE, THE VO-TECH.
FOGLEMAN- AND THIS WAS RICHARD'S CAR?
L.G.- YES.
FOGLEMAN- RICHARD SIMPSON'S CAR.
L.G.- YES.
FOGLEMAN- AND HE LET YOU BORROW IT?
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- AND HE WASN'T IN THE CAR?
L.G.- NO HE WASN'T IN THE CAR. IT WAS DURING THE DAYTIME.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, WHERE WAS HE/
L.G.- AT WORK.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT DAY WAS THAT IN RELATION TO THAT WEDNESDAY?
L.G.- IT WAS UH, ...... I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER. I THINK IT WAS TUESDAY OR THURSDAY, OR SOMETHING.
FOGLEMAN- SO LESS THAN A WEEK AFTER IT.
L.G.- IT WAS THE DAY THAT I HAD TO GO TO COURT FOR THAT WRECK SHE HAD.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT.
L.G.- SHE HAD THE WRECK ON A WEDNESDAY. IT WAS THAT TUESDAY.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT OTHER TIMES , HAS HE LET YOU BORROW THE CAR BEFORE?
L.G.- ONLY TO GO TO THE STORE OR SOMETHING.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. DID YOU UH,...ON THAT WEDNESDAY NIGHT, DID YOU BORROW THE CAR?
L.G.- NO SIR.
FOGLEMAN- YOU WERE DRIVING THOUGH RIGHT?
L.G.- YES SIR.
FOGLEMAN- BUT YOU SAY THAT RICHARD WAS WITH YOU?
L.G.- YES SIR. HE WASN'T FEELING TOO GOOD, SO I WAS DRIVING.
FOGLEMAN- DID YOU KNOW WHAT TIME YOUR AUNT DIXIE GOT OFF WORK AT THE LAUNDRYMAT?
L.G.- UH, 10 O'CLOCK. I MISSED MY OLD AUNT BY 10 MINUTES, SO IT WAS LIKE, 10 MINUTES TIL 10.
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT, WHO WORKS AFTER 10?
L.G.- NOBODY, IT CLOSES
FOGLEMAN- IT CLOSES AT 10.
L.G.- YES SIR, I THINK SO. IT MIGHT BE 11.
FOGLEMAN- IT MIGHT BE 11.
L.G.- YEAH, I KNOW IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. ALRIGHT, NOW THE AUNT SAYS THAT YOU CAME TO THE LAUNDRYMAT THAT NIGHT IN A SMALL CAR.
L.G.- THAT'S NOT TRUE.
FOGLEMAN- THAT'S NOT TRUE.
L.G.- NO SIR.
FOGLEMAN- AND SHE SAYS THAT IT WAS NOT RICHARD SIMPSON'S CAR. THAT SHE KNOWS RICHARD SIMPSON'S CAR.
L.G.- THAT'S NOT TRUE.
FOGLEMAN- I REALLY FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT TELLING US EVERYTHING THAT YOU KNOW, L.G. , AND IT COULD BE BAD FOR YOU, IF WE END UP FINDING OUT YOU'RE NOT TELLING US EVERYTHING YOU KNOW.
L.G.- I'M TELLING YOU EVERYTHING I KNOW ABOUT THIS WHOLE DEAL. I'M TELLING THE TRUTH, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.
FOGLEMAN- WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN TOLD BY DAMION OR JESSIE OR JASON AFTER THIS HAPPENED? WHAT HAVE THEY TOLD YOU? THEY'VE TOLD YOU SOMETHING.
L.G.- NO SIR, I DIDN'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT.
FOGLEMAN- HAVE THEY TOLD YOU ANYTHING ABOUT IT?
L.G.- NO SIR THEY HAVEN'T.
FOGLEMAN- THEY HAVEN'T TOLD YOU A THING?
L.G.- NO SIR. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT TIL... I THINK MY AUNT TOLD ME ABOUT IT.
FOGLEMAN- WELL, AFTER YOUR AUNT TOLD YOU, DID THEY TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT IT? HAVE THEY EVER TOLD YOU ANYTHING ABOUT IT?
L.G.- NO SIR.
FOGLEMAN- WHEN WAS THE NEXT TIME YOU SAW THEM AFTER THIS WEDNESDAY?
L.G.- UM, I THINK IT WAS MONDAY, THAT MONDAY.
FOGLEMAN- OKAY. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU SAW THEM?
L.G.- AT THE POLICE STATION.
FOGLEMAN- WHO DID YOU SEE?
L.G.- I WAS SITTING DOWN, AND I SEEN DAMION COMING UP.
FOGLEMAN- ANYBODY ELSE?
L.G.- UM, HE WAS COMING UP THE STAIRS.
FOGLEMAN- DID YOU SAY ANYTHING TO HIM?
L.G.- I JUST LOOKED UP AND KIND OF SMILED AT HIM.
FOGLEMAN- WHERE WAS THE NEXT TIME YOU TALKED TO HIM AFTER THE MURDERS.
L.G.- I'M NOT SURE, I DON'T THINK I TALKED TO HIM AFTER THAT ANY.
FOGLEMAN- WELL, ONE THING I WANT TO KNOW, IS WHY AFTER THEY STARTED MAKING THE ARRESTS, WHY DID YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE THE NEXT ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE ARRESTED?
L.G.- UM,
FOGLEMAN- TELL ME WHY YOU SAID THAT/
L.G.- THE REASON WHY I SAID THAT IS, SEE, THE POLICE WENT OVER THERE AND GOT DAMION FIRST.
FOGLEMAN- UH HUH..
L.G.- AND THEY TALKED ABOUT , AND THEN THEY COME AND TALKED TO ME, AND THEN THEY WENT AND TALKED TO WHOEVER ELSE, AND ALL I SAID WAS WELL, YOU KNOW....
FOGLEMAN- COME ON L.G.
L.G.- I'M SERIOUS, I WAS AT MY MOM'S HOUSE WHEN SOMEBODY CALLED ME.
FOGLEMAN- BUT, YOU TOLD THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BE THE NEXT ONE THAT THEY CAME TO ARREST.
L.G.- YES SIR, IT WAS....
FOGLEMAN- WHO ALL DID YOU TELL THAT TO?
L.G.- MY MOM. AND I THINK MY AUNT HEARD IT OVER THE PHONE, I DON'T KNOW. AND WHOEVER ELSE, SHE COULD HAVE TOLD ANYBODY. SHE TELLS ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING (INAUDIBLE)
FOGLEMAN- ALRIGHT THIS IS JOHN FOGLEMAN AND IT'S 4:41 P.M., SEPTEMEBER 2ND, 1993. THIS IS THE CONCLUSION OF THE INTERVIEW WITH L.G. HOLLINGSWORTH. L.G. IN FINISHING THIS UP, BEFORE THIS GOES ANY FURTHER, I WANT TO KNOW FROM YOU WHETHER THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO TELL US, ANYTHING AT ALL THAT YOU MAY KNOW ABOUT THIS PERSONALLY, OR HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS?
L.G.- NO SIR.
FOGLEMAN- THERE'S NOTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY?
L.G.- THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY IS EVERYTHING I TOLD YOU IS TRUE.
FOGLEMAN- THAT CONCLUDES THIS INTERVIEW. IT IS NOW 4:42 P.M.
