ALRIGHT THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE PROSECUTORíS INVESTIGATION IN THE CASE OF STATE OF ARKANSAS VS. DAMIEN ECHOLS, JASON BALDWIN, AND JESSIE MISSKELLEY SEPTEMBER 2ND, 1992 (sic) THE TIME IS 2:09 P. M. PRESENT IS MYSELF AND THE WITNESS UH, STACY SANDERS. NOW STACY BEFORE I GET STARTED AND I PUT YOU UNDER OATH YOU WILL BE PUT UNDER OATH DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, AND DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT OATH MEANS ITS YOU OBLIGATION TO TELL THE TRUTH?

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, I ASSUME YOU UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CERTAIN PENALTIES IF YOU DONíT TELL THE TRUTH?

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, AND IF YOU DONíT UNDERSTAND A QUESTION I ASK YOU, YOU ASK ME TO CORRECT, OR TO CLEAR IT UP, OR TO RE-STATE MY QUESTION, OKAY?

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, IF YOU DONíT HEAR A QUESTION I ASK LET ME KNOW OKAY?

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: IF YOUR NOT SURE ABOUT SOMETHING, YOU TELL ME THAT TO OKAY SO WE CAN HAVE AS ACCURATE INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE OKAY?

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: UH, THIS IS BEING TAPE RECORDED SO YOUR NEED TO SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT OKAY?

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, IF YOU WOULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOUR ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

STACY: YES

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, YOU NEED TO SPEAKS UP SOME. WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE ?

STACY: STACY SANDERS

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, AND STACY WHERE DO YOU LIVE?

STACY: 505 BALFOUR

FOGLEMAN: AND WHO DO YOU LIVE THERE WITH?

STACY: MY PARENTS

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED THERE AT 505 BALFOUR?

STACY: A COUPLE OF YEARS

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, UH, WHO ELSE LIVES IN THE HOUSE WITH YOU AND YOUR PARENTS?

STACY: UM, MY LITTLE SISTER JENNIFER

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, AND JENNIFER UH 11 YEARS OLD

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, IíM I WANT TO ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT A TIME WHEN THE HUTCHISONíS AND DAMIEN ECHOLS APPARENTLY CAME OVER TO YOUR HOUSE, DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THAT WAS?

STACY: UM, THE WEDNESDAY, IT WAS WEDNESDAY IíM NOT FOR SURE ABOUT THE DATE, I JUST KNOW IT WAS THE FIRST WEDNESDAY IN MAY

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, WHY... WHY DO YOU REMEMBER IT WAS THE FIRST WEDNESDAY IN MAY?

STACY: BECAUSE IT WAS THE WEDNESDAY THAT MY PARENTS WENT TO SPLASH, WITH SOME FRIENDS OF THEIRS AND IT WAS 90210 WAS ON AND IT HAD, I THINK THE PROM OF 90210

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, NOW ALRIGHT YOU SAID YOU REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE OF A VARIETY OF THINGS INCLUDING THAT WAS WEDNESDAY THAT YOUR PARENTS WENT TO SPLASH?

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, WHY WOULD THAT HELP YOU TO REMEMBER IT?

STACY: UM, BECAUSE I REMEMBER, I THINK IT WAS TWO DAYS LATER THEY WENT AGAIN AND THATíS WHEN DAMIEN GOT ARRESTED, I THINK THAT WAS THEN

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, ALRIGHT, THE TIME YOUR TALKING ABOUT IS 2 DAYS BEFORE DAMIEN GOT ARRESTED?

STACY: I THINK IT WAS

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, UM, ALRIGHT, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED?

STACY: NO WHAT A MINUTE

FOGLEMAN: GO AHEAD IF SOMETHING WRONG, FEEL FREE TO CORRECT IT

STACY: IíM NOT FOR SURE IT WAS 2 DAYS BEFORE HE GOT ARRESTED OR NOT, I JUST REMEMBER IT WAS A WEDNESDAY WHEN HE CAME OVER, AND HE GOT ARRESTED ON A FRIDAY NIGHT, BECAUSE THEY WENT TO SPLASH AGAIN

FOGLEMAN: OKAY,

STACY: WITH HIS PARENTS

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, WHEN HE UM, WHEN THIS OCCURRED YOU SAID IT WAS A WEDNESDAY, OKAY 2 DAYS LATER WOULD HAVE BEEN FRIDAY?

STACY: FRIDAY

FOGLEMAN: IS THAT WHEN YOUR TALKING ABOUT?

STACY: IíM TALKING ABOUT THE WEDNESDAY THAT THEY CAME OVER

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, AND IíM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WEDNESDAY THAT WAS?

STACY: ALRIGHT, WEDNESDAY, I KNOW IT WAS THE FIRST WEDNESDAY IN MAY, BECAUSE MY PARENTS WENT TO SPLASH

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, AND THEN EARLIER YOU SAID THAT 2 DAYS LATER YOUR PARENTS WENT AGAIN DID THEY NOT?

STACY: IíM NOT FOR SURE IF THATíS WHEN THEY WENT OR NOT, 2 DAYS LATER

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, ALRIGHT WILL, IíM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IN MY OWN MIND HOW YOU WOULD REMEMBER THAT PARTICULAR AND VISIT?

STACY: I REMEMBER BECAUSE I WAS ACROSS THE STREET AT MY COUSINíS WATCHING TV AND 90210 WAS FIXING TO COME ON

FOGLEMAN: OKAY,

STACY: IT WAS A SPECIAL SHOW, IT WAS ONE OF THE LAST SHOWS OF IT

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, AND IT WAS GETTING READY TO COME ON?

STACY: UH-HUH (YES)

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, WHAT TIME DOES THAT SHOW COME ON?

STACY: IT COMES ON AT 7 OíCLOCK

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, AND YOUR, YOU WONíT AT HOME?

STACY: NO SIR, I WAS ACROSS THE STREET

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, AND WHERE WERE YOU, AND WHOíS HOUSE IS THAT?

STACY: UM, ITíS MY COUSINíS MEREDITH MCKAYíS

FOGLEMAN: HOW OLD IS SHE?

STACY: SHEíS 19

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, AND UH, YOU WERE THERE WATCHING TV WITH HER?

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, AND WHEN DID UM, THESE PEOPLE COME OVER TO YOUR HOUSE?

STACY: UM, IT WAS AROUND 7 OíCLOCK BECAUSE THATíS THE REASON WHY I DIDNíT GO ACROSS THE STREET TO MY HOUSE BECAUSE THE SHOW WAS FIXING TO COME ON

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, ALRIGHT, HOW DOD YOU KNOW THAT THEY WERE THERE?

STACY: BECAUSE MY COUSIN MEREDITH SAID PAM AND JOEíS AT YOUR HOUSE, AND I LOOK OUT THE WINDOW, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS BIG GLASS WINDOW AND

FOGLEMAN: UH-HUH (YES)

STACY: AND I LOOK OUT AND I SEEN THEM

FOGLEMAN: WHO DID YOU SEE?

STACY: I REMEMBER SEEING PAM AND JOE AND MICHAEL WHICH IS DAMIEN

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, WHAT DO YOU ALL CALL HIM?

STACY: I CALL HIM, MICHAEL

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, WHY DO YOU CALL HIM THAT?

STACY: BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE LITTLE THATíS WHAT HIS NAME WAS BEFORE HE HAD IT CHANGED

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, DO YOU KNOW WHERE HE HAD IT CHANGED?

STACY: NO SIR

FOGLEMAN: YOU DONíT KNOW WHETHER IT WAS HERE OR SOME WHERE ELSE?

STACY: NO SIR

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, UM, THEN YOUR MEREDITH MCKAY

STACY: MY COUSIN

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, SAID HAY ITíS JOE AND PAM?

STACY: UM-HUH (YES)

FOGLEMAN: AND YOU LOOKED OUT AND TELL ME WHO, AGAIN WHO YOU SAW?

STACY: I SEEN PAM AND JOE AND MICHAEL

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, AND UM, WERE THEY ALREADY OUT OF THE CAR WHEN YOU LOOKED OUT?

STACY: THEY WERE WALKING IN THE DOOR

FOGLEMAN: THEY WERE WALKING IN THE DOOR, OKAY, WHO WAS IN FRONT AND BEHIND, DO YOU REMEMBER THE ORDER OF THEM?

STACY: NO SIR

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, AND DO YOU KNOW WHEN THEY LEFT? HOW LONG THEY STAYED?

STACY: NO, I DONíT REMEMBER WHAT TIME IT WAS, IíM, I DONíT REMEMBER WHAT TIME IT WAS

FOGLEMAN: WAS THE SHOW STILL ON?

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, SO

STACY: IT WAS ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF IT

FOGLEMAN: ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE SHOW THEY LEFT, OKAY HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT?

STACY: BECAUSE IT WAS GETTING, WHERE IT WAS GETTING GOOD AND CAUSE ITíS USUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF IT SO IT WAS AROUND THE MIDDLE OF IT

FOGLEMAN: WILL I MEAN, WERE YOU CONSTANTLY LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW TO SEE?

STACY: YEA, I LOOKED OUT THE WINDOW TO SEE IF THEY WERE STILL THERE

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, WHY DID YOU DO THAT?

STACY: I WAS JUST SEEING IF THEY WERE STILL THERE I FIGURED ONE OF THEM WOULD COME OVER GET ME BUT THEY DIDNíT TALK TO ME, I FIGURED, OR DIDNíT FIGURE HER DAUGHTER WOULD GO IN, BUT I FIGURED IF SHE WAS THERE SHE WOULD COME OVER AND TALK TO ME

FOGLEMAN: BUT SHE DIDNíT

STACY: NO

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, UH DID YOU SEE THEM LEAVE?

STACY: I SEEN THEM GETTING IN THE CAR

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, AND WHO DID YOU SEE GET IN THE CAR?

STACY: I JUST, I SEEN PAM AND JOE AND DAMIEN

FOGLEMAN: OKAY

STACY: AND THERE WAS SOMEONE ELSE WITH THEM BUT I COULDNíT TELL WHO IT WAS

FOGLEMAN: WHERE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE WAS SOMEONE ELSE WITH THEM?

STACY: THERE WAS 4 PEOPLE, BUT I JUST SEEN 3 GETTING INTO THE CAR, THERE WAS ONE IN THERE

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, NOW YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU SAW 3 GO IN AND YOU SAW 3 GETTING IN THE CAR, WHERE DOES THE 4TH ONE GET IN?

STACY: THEY WERE GOING, THEY WERE GOING IN, SO SOMEBODY ELSE COULD BEEN IN FRONT AND ALREADY WENT IN WHEN I LOOKED UP AND SEEN THEM

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, BUT WHERE DOES THE 4TH, ON THE WAY OUT, I MEAN HOW DO YOU SEE THE 4TH ONE?

STACY: I JUST SEEN SOMEBODYíS HEAD

FOGLEMAN: WHERE?

STACY: IN THE CAR

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, IN AND YOU SAY IT WAS ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE SHOW

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, AND YOU SAW THIS FROM ACROSS THE STREET?

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, NOW HOW LONG HAVE YOU KNOWN DAMIEN?

STACY: NEAR, ITS BEEN UM, I SAY, EVER SINCE ABOUT 4 SO ITíS BEEN, I DONíT KNOW, ITS BEEN YEARS, EVER SINCE I CAN REMEMBER SINCE WEíVE BEEN LITTLE

FOGLEMAN: HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN YOU LIVED TOGETHER IN TUPELO?

STACY: ABOUT 7 OR 8, BEFORE THEN

FOGLEMAN: AGAIN, AND YOU ALL LIVED TOGETHER ABOUT HOW LONG?

STACY: A LONG TIME, WE WAS LOTS OF TIME WE MOVED (?) SOME WHERE TOGETHER WE JUST MOVE IN TOGETHER SO

FOGLEMAN: SO YOU ALL ARE PRETTY CLOSE THEN?

STACY: YEA

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, AS OF DAMIEN EVER TALKED TO YOU ABOUT HIS BELIEFS?

STACY: NO

FOGLEMAN: HE NEVER SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT HIS WITCHCRAFT BELIEFS AND ALL THAT?

STACY: HE MIGHT MAKE COMMENTS AND STUFF BUT HEíS NEVER REALLY, WEíVE NEVER REALLY TALKED ABOUT IT

FOGLEMAN: YOU ALL HAVE NEVER REALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS?

STACY: I REMEMBER I WENT AND I, YOU KNOW LIKE AT THE FLEA MARKET AND STUFF THEY HAVE THOSE PHYSIC PEOPLE

FOGLEMAN: UM-HUH (YES)

STACY: YOU KNOW YOU TALK TO, I WENT AND I TALKED TO ONE OF THEM UP THERE AND SHE WAS TELLING ME HOW MANY KIDS I WAS GOING HAVE AND STUFF, AND THEN WHEN I LEFT, I WAS TELLING MY PARENTS ABOUT AND STUFF, DAMIEN AND HIS GIRLFRIEND DOMINI WAS SAYING SHE WAS GOING TO HAVE AS MANY KIDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY WERE SAYING THAT, BUT THATíS ALL THATíS EVER CAME UP ABOUT THOSE

FOGLEMAN: HEíS NEVER TOLD YOU ANY OF THIS STUFF

STACY: NO

FOGLEMAN: WERE YOU AWARE THAT HE HAD, THAT HE BELIEVED IN WITCHCRAFT?

STACY: YEA

FOGLEMAN: HOW WERE YOU AWARE OF THAT?

STACY: FROM MY PARENTS TALKING , AND HIS PARENTS TALKING ABOUT IT

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, WERE YOU AWARE THAT HE SAID HE WAS NOT ONLY WHITE WITCH, BUT ALSO PARTICIPATE ON THE DARK SIDE.

STACY: NO SIR

FOGLEMAN: HE DID NOT, YOU WERENíT AWARE OF THAT?

STACY: NO SIR

FOGLEMAN: SO YOU NEVER HEARD YOUR PARENTS ABOUT THAT?

STACY: NO SIR

FOGLEMAN: ALRIGHT, UM, HOW, WHEN DID YOUR PARENTS (START?) GOING TO SPLASH CASINO? HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN GOING?

STACY: GEE THE FIRST TIME THEY EVER WENT WAS THAT WEDNESDAY NIGHT

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, HOW ABOUT SINCE THEN?

STACY: SINCE THEN, THEYíVE GONE WITH PAM AND THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, HOW OFTEN DURING THE WEEK?

STACY: OH, THEY DONíT GO THAT OFTEN, I KNOW ONE WEEK THEY WENT TWICE, BUT THEY DONíT GO VERY OFTEN

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, WILL ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ONCE A MONTH, ONCE WEEK, ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS?

STACY: IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHEN THEY HAVE SOME EXTRA MONEY AND THEY WANT TO GO, I MEAN, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE, SOME MONTHS THEY HAVE EXTRA MONEY AND SOMETIMES THEY DONíT

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, BUT ITíS YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT UH, WHEN THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY HAD EVER BEEN?

STACY: YES SIR

FOGLEMAN: OKAY, I DONíT HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. YOU CAN ALL GO.

STACY: ALRIGHT THANK YOU

FOGLEMAN: YOUR WELCOME, YOU CAN TELL YOUR MOM, SISTER AND DAD.